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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Feb 3, 2017 13:58:40 GMT -5
So we're all just gonna ignore a black man is #ThreeTime Hardcore Champion? I would say something, but everyone claims that I'm the racist.
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Post by erikblack on Feb 3, 2017 13:58:41 GMT -5
So we're all just gonna ignore a black man is #ThreeTime Hardcore Champion? Yup
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Post by Miss L ilithenix on Feb 3, 2017 13:58:50 GMT -5
Well, I showed you PM's of someone calling me a bunch of names before I even trolled. So maybe we should ban him? And Spence is a jobber who wanted to troll with the best, obvi, and I fuckin murked him in one response. The best shit so far is people think the mods deleted a bunch of my posts, but it was only 2. Rod made a joke about my dead mother but I'm not calling for his ban. And lets have sex again, Seth. Just the thought of ass fucking a pale 86 pound lazy alcholic with a JC Penny rewards card gets me hard as fuck. Eat dick. You're right, Torture. And I am sorry for making a mom joke on you
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Post by Seth on Feb 3, 2017 13:59:12 GMT -5
Sorry guys I'm just a mean old man without a mommy Because she died of cancer Tort, bro. I miss mom, bro Odin, fucking seriously. What are you accomplishing here?
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Post by Joey Flash on Feb 3, 2017 14:01:37 GMT -5
Seth stop derailing the thread.
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on Feb 3, 2017 14:04:04 GMT -5
Seth stop derailing the thread. I want that mothafuckin world title you fuccin faggot.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 3, 2017 14:04:08 GMT -5
The fact remains, there is a serious problem with how issues are resolved, stemming from threads not being locked up quick enough, to people dick-riding one another when OOC bullshit breaks out, to not really knowing why some people are banned and others aren't.
This does go back to the operation of the fed, Seth. I'm not wanting to make a huge fight out of this, but it's been a war zone for months now, and we're losing great people as a result of it.
I'm not saying any of this is deliberate; we just need to refine what the rules of this place actually are, and then stick to actually enforcing said rules.
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Post by Joey Flash on Feb 3, 2017 14:04:58 GMT -5
Seth stop derailing the thread. I want that mothafuckin world title you fuccin faggot. Go enjoy your lower tier UCI reign - peon.
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Feb 3, 2017 14:05:40 GMT -5
The fact remains, there is a serious problem with how issues are resolved, stemming from threads not being locked up quick enough, to people dick-riding one another when OOC bullshit breaks out, to not really knowing why some people are banned and others aren't. This does go back to the operation of the fed, Seth. I'm not wanting to make a huge fight out of this, but it's been a war zone for months now, and we're losing great people as a result of it. I'm not saying any of this is deliberate; we just need to refine what the rules of this place actually are, and then stick to actually enforcing said rules. I'll take a hit on the not locking threads fast enough. Most of the time when I get online, I find a lot of things have exploded.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 3, 2017 14:06:25 GMT -5
So we're all just gonna ignore a black man is #ThreeTime Hardcore Champion? I would say something, but everyone claims that I'm the racist. You just sayin that cuz you white?
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 3, 2017 14:07:28 GMT -5
The fact remains, there is a serious problem with how issues are resolved, stemming from threads not being locked up quick enough, to people dick-riding one another when OOC bullshit breaks out, to not really knowing why some people are banned and others aren't. This does go back to the operation of the fed, Seth. I'm not wanting to make a huge fight out of this, but it's been a war zone for months now, and we're losing great people as a result of it. I'm not saying any of this is deliberate; we just need to refine what the rules of this place actually are, and then stick to actually enforcing said rules. I'll take a hit on the not locking threads fast enough. Most of the time when I get online, I find a lot of things have exploded. Right; I'm not saying any of it is intentional, it's just been a recurring problem. And as I'm not an admin, I don't really know what the current procedure is. Might be worth examining.
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on Feb 3, 2017 14:08:00 GMT -5
I want that mothafuckin world title you fuccin faggot. Go enjoy your lower tier UCI reign - peon. ujustmadcuzalessandracouldn'tgetitbitch.
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Post by Corey Black on Feb 3, 2017 14:08:14 GMT -5
I'm just going to toss this out there:
We SHOULDN'T HAVE TO lock threads.
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Post by Joey Flash on Feb 3, 2017 14:09:33 GMT -5
The fact remains, there is a serious problem with how issues are resolved, stemming from threads not being locked up quick enough, to people dick-riding one another when OOC bullshit breaks out, to not really knowing why some people are banned and others aren't. This does go back to the operation of the fed, Seth. I'm not wanting to make a huge fight out of this, but it's been a war zone for months now, and we're losing great people as a result of it. I'm not saying any of this is deliberate; we just need to refine what the rules of this place actually are, and then stick to actually enforcing said rules. I'll take a hit on the not locking threads fast enough. Most of the time when I get online, I find a lot of things have exploded. I think the biggest problem isn't lack of moderation but lack of conflict resolution from the participants. (Something like a Facebook chat works so much better for this than say back and forthing in PM's - you can read and react to tone and emotion a hell of a lot more and people become people rather than just a name on a screen) This isn't something we can't work past but a lot of the unsavoury elements - baiting, no selling, racism (IC or not) is all a little silly. It stems from it being a competitive environment with everyone wanting to 'one up' and spirals into a place that it shouldn't go. Keep it competitive for sure, but just try a bit of introspective humility along the way. Regards, The Cunt.
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Post by Stuart Slane on Feb 3, 2017 14:13:25 GMT -5
ORBIT CALLED SLANE A NAME, SETH. YOU LAZY FUCK BAN ORBIT A WEEK! Orbit's Pantheon, bro.
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Post by Seth on Feb 3, 2017 14:17:08 GMT -5
The fact remains, there is a serious problem with how issues are resolved, stemming from threads not being locked up quick enough, to people dick-riding one another when OOC bullshit breaks out, to not really knowing why some people are banned and others aren't. This does go back to the operation of the fed, Seth. I'm not wanting to make a huge fight out of this, but it's been a war zone for months now, and we're losing great people as a result of it. I'm not saying any of this is deliberate; we just need to refine what the rules of this place actually are, and then stick to actually enforcing said rules. I've been very open about everyone banned and why. So has every other mod. However, this attitude is exactly why I err on the side of NOT banning people - no matter what, individual instances warrant different responses, and getting into "so and so got banned for such and such, WHY NOT THIS PERSON!?" I've gotten sucked into making things a bigger deal than they are now too, and I get it, it's easy to do. The rules are clear. Don't be a dick to people. If you feel like someone is being a dick to you, either talk to them or have a mod intervene. If someone continuously posts outright OOC attacks they should be banned. Every single person here had probably called someone an idiot or whatever in the heat of an argument so I don't mean that - I mean more Tortures "HAHA DAG IS GAY" post, but that stuff doesn't happen often. I can't make a rule about subtle OOC/IC sarcasm and jabs because it isn't an issue with a "one size fits all" response. Another way to put it is "everyone should be a normal functioning adult. WCF isn't a police state that is going to get rid of everyone that says something you don't like, but we'll deal with outstanding issues as they come up." Anyone that thinks subtle "baiting" is a major issue requiring major intervention needs to see the "be an adult" part of the rule.
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Post by Seth on Feb 3, 2017 14:19:32 GMT -5
I wasted my entire lunch break on this - which is okay, I'm only 86 lbs anyway - but it's back to work for me now.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 3, 2017 14:22:38 GMT -5
The fact remains, there is a serious problem with how issues are resolved, stemming from threads not being locked up quick enough, to people dick-riding one another when OOC bullshit breaks out, to not really knowing why some people are banned and others aren't. This does go back to the operation of the fed, Seth. I'm not wanting to make a huge fight out of this, but it's been a war zone for months now, and we're losing great people as a result of it. I'm not saying any of this is deliberate; we just need to refine what the rules of this place actually are, and then stick to actually enforcing said rules. I've been very open about everyone banned and why. So has every other mod. However, this attitude is exactly why I err on the side of NOT banning people - no matter what, individual instances warrant different responses, and getting into "so and so got banned for such and such, WHY NOT THIS PERSON!?" I've gotten sucked into making things a bigger deal than they are now too, and I get it, it's easy to do. The rules are clear. Don't be a dick to people. If you feel like someone is being a dick to you, either talk to them or have a mod intervene. If someone continuously posts outright OOC attacks they should be banned. Every single person here had probably called someone an idiot or whatever in the heat of an argument so I don't mean that - I mean more Tortures "HAHA DAG IS GAY" post, but that stuff doesn't happen often. I can't make a rule about subtle OOC/IC sarcasm and jabs because it isn't an issue with a "one size fits all" response. Another way to put it is "everyone should be a normal functioning adult. WCF isn't a police state that is going to get rid of everyone that says something you don't like, but we'll deal with outstanding issues as they come up." Anyone that thinks subtle "baiting" is a major issue requiring major intervention needs to see the "be an adult" part of the rule. At the same time, this attitude of "you need thicker skin" has been the root of a lot of issues that have cropped up in recent months. Frankly, something about this is not working.
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Post by Wade Moor on Feb 3, 2017 14:25:11 GMT -5
I wasted my entire lunch break on this - which is okay, I'm only 86 lbs anyway - but it's back to work for me now. U fat
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 14:29:00 GMT -5
Look it's easy to put blame on rod... but some of you are just as guilty of starting shit and keeping it going if not more at fault. have talked to those leaving and it's not because of rod it's because of everything going on. When pantheon was talked about being the enemy it came in what looked like an NWO group and wanted to take all the belts. They hijacked more twitter post and ooc post then the rest of the wcf... this place has changed a lot from the time I was here before pantheon and after. It's not all their fault and it's not everyone else's fault. I am confused as to why Jared Holmes took a shot at me in a conversation where I wasn't even active... hell my internet post the last few weeks have been in reply to shep story line only. Yesterday while this board was filling up I did my taxes and planned a cruise. I stayed out of it but today I look at this all and everyone wants to just point fingers at one side. Almost Everyone that has posted in this is at fault for some of it... including me. That perception about Pantheon as the enemy was started OOC and forced on them IC. I don't get this idea of it making sense for Pantheon to be these outsiders or invaders like people are portraying them to be. First of all, these guys have been here IC for anywhere from a year plus all the way up to 15 years ago (CD). A number of them were here in the fed the whole time you guys were here. Just because some of them left and then returned doesn't make them invaders, even if in a group. I've done that a number of times. There's quite a few people who have done it as well. They weren't outsiders/invaders. When WCW was bought out and they did the Invasion angle...THAT was an invasion. The Alliance was a group of invaders from ECW and WCW, mostly guys who had never been in WWE or if they had it was anywhere from 10-20 years earlier under different names/gimmicks.
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