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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2010 22:08:47 GMT -5
I was going to just ignore your inane drivel until I saw this gem. When the hell did I ever run the company? I don't think you even read what you argue against because you keep making stupid responses like this. Might've been the part where you took over the company and did an angle to run it into the ground? Granted, I'm not Lerch, so I don't know what he was thinking. And you're correct when you say that I don't know the history of the angle. Regardless of that, it sounds like if you're actually able to shut down the company, you've been given a pretty high level of control, wouldn't you agree? Wow, dude you are so dense. I did not take over the company from Seth and then do an angle where I tried to run it into the ground. The entire thing was an angle. Me taking over the company was PART OF THE ANGLE. Look back at the last couple of pages, I repeatedly referred to it as a TAKEOVER angle. That would imply it was an angle about me TAKING over right? It's not about whether or not you have the right, no one is saying you don't. Walking into a competitive atmosphere with a severe superiority complex before you've even proven yourself doesn't exactly go over well with the people in that place. That should be common sense no matter where you go. Let me clear this up a little for you. I honestly don't care that I haven't been given a title shot. That's not the issue. When you said that I prefer not to be involved in angles, you were actually correct. I don't. I would much rather beat people up for a few weeks and work my way up the ranks. The thing that I do have a little bit of an issue with is the guys that were given shots in front of me. However, that was an in character issue that seems to be getting dragged out of character in an effort to defame me. Do I think it's bullshit that some guys got a shot in front of me after I beat them? Yes. Is it that big of a deal, no? I'm just not about to allow people that I know that I'm better than to talk shit in character or out of character. That's just how I roll. If you don't like it, then talk to someone other than me. I'll put something else out there for you too. There's only one guy in this federation that I think is any better than I am: Guiliano. Title shots was an in character issue dragged out? You were the one talking about it in another thread. No one dragged it out of you or dragged it out at all. Go look at your own posts in the Ladder thread, you were the one talking about it and Jason was defending you in that discussion, backing you up. No one is dragging it out of you or trying to defame you with it. You complained publicly about it. Willingly without anyone making you say it. |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 11, 2010 22:15:00 GMT -5
Well I guess that's something to look forward too...2 Months is plenty to show that you can help contribute and be counted on for this e-fed. If Seth assigns me with a match to write he knows it'll be done with 2 Endings to Choose from giving him less work to do himself. When I've had a match these last two months, I've rped for them almost always to the max. But you're right, I haven't been here but only two months. Usually when guys who don't contribute anymore or when they are "retired" or "dead" then they usually move on and let the current work their shit. Look to keep this straight though, I'll move back. I'll step back and let people do their thing and not comment or voice my opinion. Because it's not welcomed and I'll continue doing what I came here to do...RP.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2010 22:23:46 GMT -5
Well I guess that's something to look forward too...2 Months is plenty to show that you can help contribute and be counted on for this e-fed. If Seth assigns me with a match to write he knows it'll be done with 2 Endings to Choose from giving him less work to do himself. When I've had a match these last two months, I've rped for them almost always to the max. But you're right, I haven't been here but only two months. Usually when guys who don't contribute anymore or when they are "retired" or "dead" then they usually move on and let the current work their shit. Look to keep this straight though, I'll move back. I'll step back and let people do their thing and not comment or voice my opinion. Because it's not welcomed and I'll continue doing what I came here to do...RP. Not everyone in WCF reads the sign up threads and knows how much you or anyone else contributes. I know one person that contributes to every show because I know his match writing style. When I was active, I didn't always know who contributed either because I didn't always read match writing threads because I do almost all of my communication about WCF with Seth through personal e-mail. He would e-mail me there about match writing for the week. And...again...no one is telling you not to voice your opinion. You're taking things personally that I keep saying they didn't say to you, but whatever. You're going to keep ignoring what I'm saying. |
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Post by Corey Black on Aug 11, 2010 22:31:15 GMT -5
I hate setting up quotes so excuse me for not doing so now. Gravedigger, this is for you: What you said is true and I have never expected more then I have earned. I've never asked for a Title shot other then when Knoxville bailed on me at the PPV. I asked Seth for a quick rematch with me having a new partner. Malachi was Influential Minds so he became my only partner when Knoxville quit. So in a way I am sticking up for my partner, taking his back in this small matter of Big Time Jerks comments. However regardless of what I've earned the right to do the simple fact is since I've been here I've helped out with results on occasion. Something I've never done for another promotion. I've on my own talked with guys like D-Day and given tips and feedback to others when the feedback and helpful tips don't seem to be coming from anyone else almost. I've carried my weight here and have earned the right to an opinion. The problem is that this place has so much history and alot of that history even being inactive still feels they can throw their opinions around on the current product. Tort, CD, more than yourself throw around their smart remarks and try their hardest to degrade anything that isn't about them or to something they like. So the issues that are made, 80% of the time is started with smart remarks by old voices who are no longer carrying their weight. I'm doing my part in helping this place out, as I've talked with Seth about I can help whenever it's needed. I don't expect to be played as a favorite, but truth is truth and if I'm wrong I do admit that. Whats true here is that if a newer face like myself or Malachi shits on something of history here to pump our own nuts then what is the difference than when a new comer to WWE talks about his greatness and how he's the greatest whatever since sliced bread. Because we're new we can't voice our opinions? Those who aren't active can so why can't we? If I speak on someone active in character or half way in character and crap on them, I don't expect to see someone not active but respected come and defend them. Regardless of my reasons. This has gone too far, Seth needs to shut this shit down. The topic here because it's really getting annoying. Let's make this the enviroment it was when I got here... I was inactive for a grand total of two shows. TWO. SHOWS. |
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Post by Allen Guiliano on Aug 11, 2010 22:41:15 GMT -5
I'm just not about to allow people that I know that I'm better than to talk shit in character or out of character. That's just how I roll. If you don't like it, then talk to someone other than me. I'll put something else out there for you too. There's only one guy in this federation that I think is any better than I am: Guiliano. We have had our differences on this board and I'm sure we might have them again in the future, but I respect that last sentence. Honestly, I'm humbled by it and my personal respect level for you has gone up a notch. Thanks for the ultimate comment and I'm sure that before long there will be an important match involving the two of us. |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 11, 2010 22:44:17 GMT -5
Slickie, I like you too!! No I like a few guys here for sure. There is alot of solid dudes here. Greenfever, Oblivion, Garrison, Jackson, I can actually name more but I won't.
CD...You're right, I'm wrong. My bad. "Tristian" said something about you half assing it so I knew that..
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Post by Corey Black on Aug 11, 2010 22:54:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been half assing it. I'll give you that much. (again)
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Post by Torture on Aug 12, 2010 0:04:20 GMT -5
All I was saying is don't act superior to the Big Time Jerks ever again. They've done a lot for WCF and to think other wise is bullshit. They've been through the thick of shit, and the thin of shit and are always fun to have around. They also participate in a lot of OOC stuff, which is to say for a lot of us. (Always involved with Happy Birthday threads and the like!)
That's all I was saying. I don't think too highly of people who get here, bad mouth the veterans because of their RP work. Who cares about their RPs, it's the people I care about. Great people = great fun.
As for this thread, I was recently told by CD and Price about this so I HAD to check it out. They both told me it was very entertaining. I really don't have much time to 'lurk' on here so when I do, it's nice I can read through this shit. It's pretty entertaining. But like GD said, I'm proud to say I've built this house (Not alone, obviously, a lot of good guys before me, and I'm sure a lot after..)
I have nothing against Kash, his stuff was in character, and I've feuded with Logan before so I know how raunchy, and nasty in character stuff can get. LOL.
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 12, 2010 1:02:37 GMT -5
Isn't that the purpose of heelish new guys to come in and brag about how much better they are then the veterans before them? I try to do almost all of it in character though.
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Post by malachiwanderlust on Aug 12, 2010 1:25:56 GMT -5
Might've been the part where you took over the company and did an angle to run it into the ground? Granted, I'm not Lerch, so I don't know what he was thinking. And you're correct when you say that I don't know the history of the angle. Regardless of that, it sounds like if you're actually able to shut down the company, you've been given a pretty high level of control, wouldn't you agree? Wow, dude you are so dense. I did not take over the company from Seth and then do an angle where I tried to run it into the ground. The entire thing was an angle. Me taking over the company was PART OF THE ANGLE. Look back at the last couple of pages, I repeatedly referred to it as a TAKEOVER angle. That would imply it was an angle about me TAKING over right? Did you or did you not take over the company? Your response should be - no, it was part of the angle. Then Seth wanted the joint to close, so he let you close it? It's your angle, man. You tell me. I'm the uneducated one... at least in regard to this story. And see now... You've really kind of made my point for me. Being that it was an angle... If Lerch and the other wrestlers hadn't cooperated with you... What would you have accomplished? Nada. Ignore the troll. It's like any other living entity. Without food, it doesn't live. Let me clear this up a little for you. I honestly don't care that I haven't been given a title shot. That's not the issue. When you said that I prefer not to be involved in angles, you were actually correct. I don't. I would much rather beat people up for a few weeks and work my way up the ranks. The thing that I do have a little bit of an issue with is the guys that were given shots in front of me. However, that was an in character issue that seems to be getting dragged out of character in an effort to defame me. Do I think it's bullshit that some guys got a shot in front of me after I beat them? Yes. Is it that big of a deal, no? I'm just not about to allow people that I know that I'm better than to talk shit in character or out of character. That's just how I roll. If you don't like it, then talk to someone other than me. I'll put something else out there for you too. There's only one guy in this federation that I think is any better than I am: Guiliano. Title shots was an in character issue dragged out? You were the one talking about it in another thread. No one dragged it out of you or dragged it out at all. Go look at your own posts in the Ladder thread, you were the one talking about it and Jason was defending you in that discussion, backing you up. No one is dragging it out of you or trying to defame you with it. You complained publicly about it. Willingly without anyone making you say it. Like I say, dude, it's really not that big of a deal. We can drop it if you want. |
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Post by malachiwanderlust on Aug 12, 2010 1:31:14 GMT -5
All I was saying is don't act superior to the Big Time Jerks ever again. Or what? You'll spank me with ghost hands? |
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Post by Jason Cashe on Aug 12, 2010 1:53:57 GMT -5
Yeah, you are technically dead and all..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2010 5:37:40 GMT -5
Bust your ass for 6 months, write amazing roleplays, write plenty of matches and then you'll earn respect from people like CD and Torture. /checks his watch. When is that supposed to kick in exactly? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2010 6:35:18 GMT -5
Did you or did you not take over the company? Your response should be - no, it was part of the angle. Are you not reading? I said and I quote again..." Me taking over the company was PART OF THE ANGLE." That was in what you quoted yet you're still wanting me to be clear if I took over the company in an angle? Not sure why I need to give a yes or no answer when I clearly stated it was all an angle. You were talking as if Seth really let a wrestler take over the company so he could run an angle. As part of the angle. It was done in character, the fed was closed down as a huge weekly TV show done in arenas around the country with sponsors, etc. and became an independent promotion. This has been my point since my first post in the thread. You're talking about angles as if you know how they're going to end when you know nothing about them other than a few lines on the results from the previous show. You're badmouthing the similarity between this angle and my takeover angle when you didn't even know what my angle was about. My point is don't badmouth something if you don't even know anything about it. If you're running your mouth about something and need to be educated on it, it makes you look stupid. I would figure a guy with a college degree would want to look educated when having a discussion. Again, your ignorance shines through. People did try to ignore it for the most part. Torture and CD had a feud pre-planned and my angle came in as a surprise to all the wrestlers and had terrible timing so they didn't participate as much as they might have. Other wrestlers ignored it some, too, yet we ran the angle anyway for like 4 months or 3. If all it takes to squash a takeover angle is to ignore the invaders, then the people behind the angle suck as writers. It's not that hard to force people to participate. You just gotta know what to do to provoke them. Then again when I took over, I was the owner (IN CHARACTER) of WCF and made people's lives hell. This new group won't have any of that trouble since a team is already formed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2010 6:38:58 GMT -5
Bust your ass for 6 months, write amazing roleplays, write plenty of matches and then you'll earn respect from people like CD and Torture. /checks his watch. When is that supposed to kick in exactly? You hit on Seth too quickly after you joined, that gives you like -240 respect points, you're about 6 more months from now for that respect. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2010 6:51:12 GMT -5
/checks his watch. When is that supposed to kick in exactly? You hit on Seth too quickly after you joined, that gives you like -240 respect points, you're about 6 more months from now for that respect. ;D FML. |
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Post by Torture on Aug 12, 2010 11:52:38 GMT -5
Price, what the fuck. You know, CD and I already respect you. Don't be emo.  . And, Kash, you're failing to understand that Malachi is not in character when he replies, he's mostly out of character. YOU have been in character, but not Malachi. He's taking cheap shot after cheap shot and it's getting him nowhere. |
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Post by malachiwanderlust on Aug 12, 2010 14:20:42 GMT -5
Did you or did you not take over the company? Your response should be - no, it was part of the angle. Are you not reading? I said and I quote again..." Me taking over the company was PART OF THE ANGLE." ------------- So, you did effectively run the company then. You got to make the decisions. Thank you. Glad we cleared that up. That was in what you quoted yet you're still wanting me to be clear if I took over the company in an angle? Not sure why I need to give a yes or no answer when I clearly stated it was all an angle. You were talking as if Seth really let a wrestler take over the company so he could run an angle. ------------- Correct. That is how I'm talking. Whether you took over OOC or IC, the result was the same, wasn't it? As part of the angle. It was done in character, the fed was closed down as a huge weekly TV show done in arenas around the country with sponsors, etc. and became an independent promotion. This has been my point since my first post in the thread. You're talking about angles as if you know how they're going to end when you know nothing about them other than a few lines on the results from the previous show. ------------ I don't have to know exactly how the angle is going to work. I just have to know how to make it stop working. Once you see this, you'll see what I'm saying. It's not about the angle, even if it is a rehashed one that I personally don't like. It's about people's response to the angle. You're badmouthing the similarity between this angle and my takeover angle when you didn't even know what my angle was about. ---------- See above. My point is don't badmouth something if you don't even know anything about it. If you're running your mouth about something and need to be educated on it, it makes you look stupid. ----------- Guess I didn't need educated as much as I thought I did because the answer to the problem in both cases is/was the same. Ignore the troll. I would figure a guy with a college degree would want to look educated when having a discussion. Again, your ignorance shines through. People did try to ignore it for the most part. Torture and CD had a feud pre-planned and my angle came in as a surprise to all the wrestlers and had terrible timing so they didn't participate as much as they might have. Other wrestlers ignored it some, too, yet we ran the angle anyway for like 4 months or 3. If all it takes to squash a takeover angle is to ignore the invaders, then the people behind the angle suck as writers. It's not that hard to force people to participate. You just gotta know what to do to provoke them. ---------- Seems like there's a lot of easily provoked folks around here. LoL. But yes, that really is all it takes to squash the angle. Then again when I took over, I was the owner (IN CHARACTER) of WCF and made people's lives hell. This new group won't have any of that trouble since a team is already formed. ----------You've proven my point. People cooperated with you on some level and you ran the company. End of discussion. Until these guys are set up with a match, they can't do anything. You can't wrestle yourself (unless you're that one Japanese dude, but he really didn't look that good doing it anyway). If everyone is worried about a take-over, the answer is simple. Don't sell it. |
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Post by malachiwanderlust on Aug 12, 2010 14:22:16 GMT -5
Price, what the fuck. You know, CD and I already respect you. Don't be emo. . And, Kash, you're failing to understand that Malachi is not in character when he replies, he's mostly out of character. YOU have been in character, but not Malachi. He's taking cheap shot after cheap shot and it's getting him nowhere. Oh, I think we're getting somewhere. Maybe we'll get you dug out of a grave. |
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Post by Corey Black on Aug 12, 2010 14:25:52 GMT -5
Dude, you're stupid. There is a difference between OOC and IC.
In character, GD took over WCF, but Seth made all the results decisions and everything out of character.
You are not Malachi Wanderlust. You are some troll from Alabama.
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