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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 13:24:50 GMT -5
Can I suggest having a rule of only one roleplay allowed on the day of the show because it's really unfair for the people who actually roleplay through the week and then their opponent rps twice in one day? Is this fair?
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Post by Seth on Jan 23, 2010 15:11:21 GMT -5
If everyone agrees I'd think about it but I think the rules as they are now are fine, with the 3 hours in between RPs, seeing as only 2 or 3 count anyway. And although a lot of people do wait until the last second to RP, I've rarely seen people that wait until the very last day and post two of them then. So yeah.
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 15:30:06 GMT -5
I think it's just a little unfair if someone post two roleplays on the last day and the other opponent worked all week on their roleplays.
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Post by Seth on Jan 23, 2010 15:36:45 GMT -5
But if the opponent worked all week then I assume they got up two RPs. So even if the other guy puts up two RPs on the day of the show, then they're still equal, no one has an advantage.
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 15:46:01 GMT -5
The guy who put up two rps on the day of the show sandbagged the other one and they do have an advantage because they have a lot more material to work with.
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Post by Seth on Jan 23, 2010 15:48:13 GMT -5
Okay, thats kinda true about having more material to work with, but if someone was being a jerk like that on purpose they could easily get around the rule by posting something at like 11 PM the night before the last day, and then posting their 2nd RP the day of the event.
Plus, I've never seen many instances of that happening here so I don't think its much of an issue. A lot of people don't have time to roleplay until the end of the week.
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 15:53:24 GMT -5
I just think there should be a rule in place. I mean people who rp in the middle of the week have to be more creative cause they have nothing to work with because the other guy hasn't rped yet.
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Post by hectorrodriguez on Jan 23, 2010 16:04:10 GMT -5
You're going to end up at a stalemate with the arguments for this rule.
If your rule is enacted then the people who can't write anything except near the end of the week get punished. Some of us have jobs, some have two jobs, some go to school, some do both.
Some weeks I get lucky if I have the time to write anything at all before Sunday or even Monday.
If we go by your rule and you yourself write something on Tuesday, then your opponent's only chance is Monday morning, the day of the show, then you can write one a couple of hours later. Your opponent can then do nothing but accept a loss, this is assuming that both of your roleplays were really good, because as we know it's all about quality not quantity.
Even though I don't like the 3 hour rule as already expressed in another thread, I'd much rather have that than one RP on the last day.
If you're having trouble with ideas and material, then go through their old roleplays and match results. There's always gems you can build off of things they've done or said before to previous opponents.
In summary, your solution is just as unfair as your problem.
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 16:06:23 GMT -5
It's not that I have trouble with material personally, but I know some would. And I understand school and work and all that because I do it too. But I signed up to this fed and I plan to roleplay for it.
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Post by hectorrodriguez on Jan 23, 2010 16:17:26 GMT -5
It's not that I have trouble with material personally, but I know some would. And I understand school and work and all that because I do it too. But I signed up to this fed and I plan to roleplay for it. Honestly, how is this that different from my own problem last week? wasn't it you who just said that people need to start writing earlier in the week? If you write one on Wednesday and then again the day of the show you'll just as many that count as the other. Your real problem seems to be with having available material. A good writer can create their own, sure it's good to have more available at hand, but that makes no difference. |
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 16:23:51 GMT -5
It's not that I have trouble with material personally, but I know some would. And I understand school and work and all that because I do it too. But I signed up to this fed and I plan to roleplay for it. Honestly, how is this that different from my own problem last week? wasn't it you who just said that people need to start writing earlier in the week? If you write one on Wednesday and then again the day of the show you'll just as many that count as the other. Your real problem seems to be with having available material. A good writer can create their own, sure it's good to have more available at hand, but that makes no difference. Honestly the problem is not gaining material for me. The problem is sandbagging which I have repeated over and over. |
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Post by hectorrodriguez on Jan 23, 2010 16:41:28 GMT -5
Honestly the problem is not gaining material for me. The problem is sandbagging which I have repeated over and over. Where's sandbagging taking place here? You yourself said last week in my thread that people should learn to write earlier in the week if they're worried about someone writing more than them. If we go by your own advice and write one earlier in the week and then our opponent does two on the last day without breaking the 3 hour rule, then they didn't sandbag you, they only got a one rp advantage over you because you waited too long. It seems like you want to forget the arguments you made last week to defend your own position this time. I think all these restrictions on roleplaying are absurd because only the best two count anyway, which I have zero problem with. Next thing you know, people are going to request that someone can't write another roleplay until their opponent responds first. |
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 23, 2010 16:50:01 GMT -5
Honestly the problem is not gaining material for me. The problem is sandbagging which I have repeated over and over. Where's sandbagging taking place here? You yourself said last week in my thread that people should learn to write earlier in the week if they're worried about someone writing more than them. If we go by your own advice and write one earlier in the week and then our opponent does two on the last day without breaking the 3 hour rule, then they didn't sandbag you, they only got a one rp advantage over you because you waited too long. It seems like you want to forget the arguments you made last week to defend your own position this time. I think all these restrictions on roleplaying are absurd because only the best two count anyway, which I have zero problem with. Next thing you know, people are going to request that someone can't write another roleplay until their opponent responds first. Which has worked wonderfully in other feds. |
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Post by Torture on Jan 23, 2010 17:06:08 GMT -5
The thing to remember here, Trent is that while WCF stops at nothing to run a completely amazing and legit efed, we're also relaxed and use this as a lot of fun. There are a few, or were a few here that used WCF as their get-a-way efed, while still actively competing in another serious efed with a thousand rules and regulations.
Just letting you know. We're here because a lot of us are friends, or becoming friends, and we really work on just having a relaxed, fun, and competitive time without questioning the integrity of the game.
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Post by Allen Guiliano on Jan 23, 2010 18:32:46 GMT -5
I say keep the rule the same. Like Torture said, most people here are using his as a fed fun and I don' t think is any sandbagging going on. If you are worried about posting your two RPs and then having the opponent use those two RPs for material, simply post them later in the week. I haven't seen anyone personally delay RPs for an advantage and I have never had a no show except when I was extremely sick and honestly did not have the energy to be creative. My work schedule doesn't really leave me much time to throw up the quality of RPs that I need to do to remain where I'm at in the fed so I do them on Friday nights and Saturdays. For PPVs, I work on them a little bit at night every day and usually have a good one by Thursday, am able to do another on Friday or Saturday, and then a final one on Sunday afternoon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 18:52:55 GMT -5
I could never consider two RPs sandbagging.
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Post by hectorrodriguez on Jan 23, 2010 20:00:53 GMT -5
I say keep the rule the same. Like Torture said, most people here are using his as a fed fun and I don' t think is any sandbagging going on. If you are worried about posting your two RPs and then having the opponent use those two RPs for material, simply post them later in the week. I haven't seen anyone personally delay RPs for an advantage and I have never had a no show except when I was extremely sick and honestly did not have the energy to be creative. My work schedule doesn't really leave me much time to throw up the quality of RPs that I need to do to remain where I'm at in the fed so I do them on Friday nights and Saturdays. For PPVs, I work on them a little bit at night every day and usually have a good one by Thursday, am able to do another on Friday or Saturday, and then a final one on Sunday afternoon. I have to do it in one sitting or it will get deleted. If I start working on it and then walk away and finish it another day, the thought process won't be consistent and my roleplay won't flow. |
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Post by Torture on Jan 23, 2010 20:04:13 GMT -5
Same here!
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Post by Allen Guiliano on Jan 23, 2010 22:09:58 GMT -5
I can see where that would be a problem and it has been for me as well...I always try to find a spot where when I pick it up at a later time it will make a minimal, if any, difference. To each his own.
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Post by Trent Townsend on Jan 24, 2010 7:22:19 GMT -5
I understand this fed is used for fun because heaven knows I do have fun here. It's a relaxed fed and some feds are so regulated it isn't any fun for anyone and I respect and like this fed because the rules are a little more relaxed. I simply made the suggestion for one roleplay for those who's only choice is to roleplay during the week instead of the day of the show.
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