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Post by Seth on Feb 6, 2015 23:03:46 GMT -5
What do you guys want to see? Not promising anything, but out of curiosity, what are you guys interested in?
-New graphics?
-Brand new website, something more up to date?
-New board skins?
-Different fed philosophy?
Anything else? Let me know.
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Post by Jay Omega on Feb 6, 2015 23:28:36 GMT -5
Lube that doesn't come from Biohazard, condoms that aren't made of sandpaper, a paycheque. Maybe some sort of early warning system on Logan to warn newbs of impending surprise butt sex. Like, a little bell, or a big, blinking hot dog, or something.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 23:42:01 GMT -5
I'd like to see official rankings for each championship division so we know where we stand as competitors. I look at some of these championship and contendership bouts and I have no idea what the criteria was for determining the match-ups. I think greater clarity in these matters would behoove us.
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Post by Odin Balfore on Feb 7, 2015 0:56:15 GMT -5
Offical power rankings would be a good idea. It doesnt need to be offical win/loss stuff like Price tried before because thats too much. Something like
World Champion: ICE Beckman
#1 Contender: STJ
2. Bobby Cairo
3. X
4. Y
5. Z
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Post by Jayson Price on Feb 7, 2015 1:30:49 GMT -5
Oh god, not the ladder rankings.
The last time I tried doing those was right after Seth updated the boards to this new version. The god damn coding was a nightmarish, jumbled mess of crazy. I still shudder when I think about it. Never again. Never.
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Post by Joey Flash on Feb 7, 2015 5:28:24 GMT -5
The only thing I guess I'd ask for is a bit more 'out of show' sorta shit, monthly awards and what not. The rest of the stuff is on us wrestlers, just fluff to add more depth to the fed like looking through the archives there were like massive interviews and like roving reporters and shit.
Other than that, just more storyline building, a review show, power rankings. Fuck I'd have a bash at a podcast if any fucker is interested. (Or if anyone wants to do it instead, get dat shit)
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Post by Crow McMorris on Feb 7, 2015 8:22:54 GMT -5
Just a couple of things:
Can we move the WCFWrestling.com link to the top of the General links tab? I think that will help the newcomers with navigation, also it's a little weird to have the home tab lead back to the boards and not the main page.
Can we have a link on the main page that clarifies quickly the set up here, I'm not talking about what events we have, or it's history but rather the backstory for the fed, where's its main base of operations set? Who's the Guy in Charge? What's the Television deal, is it on one network, is it subscription based? This could help with roleplays, if it's a WWE Network type deal, then it's gonna need programming, allowing for more scope for role plays; under the guise of "exclusive programming", I know alot of this stuff can be found out but a couple of paragraphs and a new tab could really help.
One of the strengths of WCF is that it's look is easy on the eyes, I decided to take a gander at some of the other EFeds out there and they're a bit garlish to be honest, too bright, too much colour. One site had a backdrop so loud I couldn't even read what was on the screen! I like simple. Maybe some of the logo's could do with a bit of a polish, but the main backbone of the site is sound IMHO.
The philosophy of the site should NEVER change. It's core values are it's crowning achievement and what keeps it head and shoulders above all. It aint broke, and needs no fixing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 8:48:27 GMT -5
Offical power rankings would be a good idea. It doesnt need to be offical win/loss stuff like Price tried before because thats too much. Something like World Champion: ICE Beckman #1 Contender: STJ 2. Bobby Cairo 3. X 4. Y 5. Z Yes, exactly. I think it would be an informative resource for the roster because it would tell us where we stand in Seth's eyes and who we have to beat in order to get the title shot that we want. I think it would also allow Seth to foster a more conclusive overview of the respective contenders, thereby making it easier for him to book shows. |
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Post by Steve Orbit on Feb 7, 2015 10:28:36 GMT -5
I agree with the rankings to a degree. The only problem I can forsee is what if Seth wants to book a certain title match and it doesn't have anything to do with the rankings? The ranked people will say "hey wtf why is he getting a shot and not me?!" I could see those kind of issues arising.
Honestly I think the best we could hope for would be an unofficial power rankings. Maybe somebody could add it as a segment to Wednesday Night if Price is serious about starting it back up. Kinda like Lucien Hicks used to do or the 8th Wonder. I do miss those types of things. Bryan Worthy was always good about bringing that kind of stuff to the fed too.
I found out with Wednesday Night that everybody has a lot of good ideas for improvements and things they'd like to see but when it comes down to it, nobody really has the time or wants to make the time to do this extra shit. It takes a certain motivation to do something outside of RPing and writing matches. Let's face it, there's a lot of us who spend lots of time on our writing already and then to pick up something voluntary on top of that, I mean it sounds good now and I'm sure lots of people will say they're in, but when its time to actually do the shit that's when nobody has time all of a sudden. That's not a knock at the fed or anybody here but its just the reality of it-- like Seth said, our mission statement, we're busy people with lives, girlfriends/wives, some of us have kids or video games to play with.
Just something I've had in the back of my mind when I saw all this talk about new ideas and shows and whatever else. Most everybody wants to see new contributions but don't nobody want to write the shit. That's from personal experience and three years in the fed. Maybe the current roster is more motivated or has more time but I don't see anything getting off the ground period.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 11:00:15 GMT -5
Don't we already ask "Why is he getting a title shot and not me?" I know that I do. And I've seen others express similar sentiments. That was the primary rationale behind my suggestion for the rankings. I do agree that it's a responsibility that Seth might not wish to undertake, but he's the one who started the thread and asked for suggestions, so we'll see what happens. I wouldn't want to be responsible for rankings simply because I'm an active competitor and it would present a conflict of interests, otherwise I'd be willing to implement and maintain them myself.
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Post by Jackson White on Feb 7, 2015 11:05:52 GMT -5
I think it would be interesting to have a weekly or monthly roster classification, something similar to WWE Power 25.
Besides that, maybe a design improval on WCF.com.
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Post by Odin Balfore on Feb 7, 2015 13:31:37 GMT -5
I like the feel of the old GFX and stuff. But there are little things like the monthly awards that have been suggested that could improve the system. Just no monetary system where a win gets X amount a loss gets Y amount and then you can cash in for a match type or a title shot. That just turns into the problem we had years ago where everyone had this indestructible contract bullhsit
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Post by DVS on Feb 7, 2015 14:41:06 GMT -5
When it comes to rankings - I've seen it done using the vote system. Not too complex. Make a sticky thread and close it. The thread asks for the rosters top 25 (or whatever number), gives a deadline, and they are PM'd to a new user named WCF Rankings; or something. Any admin can access the user. The rankings are then devised using a rounding-average system that's kind of a small formula. It sounds tough, but It's actually pretty simple. It's just more of a whole opinion rather than a select few, albeit the select few get to finalize the averaged rankings. It doesn't state who should get a title shot, but it shows who's over with the people who are the most important - and that's everybody  <3. It comes off as a popularity contest, but...wait...it isnt??? <3 I don't really care about anything else. I like WCF the way it is. That doesn't mean I'm against change. Whatever makes WCF happy is cool with me! |
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Post by occulo on Feb 7, 2015 14:49:09 GMT -5
Ermm...I think the SLAM logo could do with some serious revamp. It's ugly and doesn't reflect the roster in my opinion. Maybe we could have a competition to see who could design the best one maybe?
As Joey said, the out-of-show stuff could become more of a thing. For example a wrestler is interviewed each week with questions posed by the admin staff or something, and is done either in the internet post board OR using the Chat window using Hank Brown.
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Post by Crow McMorris on Feb 7, 2015 16:18:56 GMT -5
We do RP of the week. If that could translate into a "movers and shakers" poll, then that could work. It doesn't mean X will get a shot over Y, but if you grab people's attention on a consistent basis, then title shots are more likely to happen.
Something like this would become a factor in deciding who gets what, but it's not the be all and end all; giving the bookers the space they need to make the calls that they want.
Perhaps we do a thread each week to find out who's caught people's eyes; those names that come up appear on a Movers and Shakers spot on Slam; basically, Freddy, Graves and Zac read out the names between matches and say who has made an impact this week over the internet in a recurring segment. Five to One.
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Post by Crow McMorris on Feb 7, 2015 17:47:31 GMT -5
I see Seth has beaten us to it and set up his own developmental project; although I gotta say, I think he could have spent more money on the production costs. lol
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Post by Gemini Battle on Feb 7, 2015 19:25:49 GMT -5
As a noob I found it hard to catch up with storylines without going back through shows and still its hard to figure. After a few weeks I figured it out but still felt lost and like an outsider.
When I got thrust into the Main event picture I felt really overwhelmed with people who had so much history that I couldn't even begin to scratch the surface of.
I don't know if there's anything that can even be done about that
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 3:03:30 GMT -5
As a noob I found it hard to catch up with storylines without going back through shows and still its hard to figure. After a few weeks I figured it out but still felt lost and like an outsider. When I got thrust into the Main event picture I felt really overwhelmed with people who had so much history that I couldn't even begin to scratch the surface of. I don't know if there's anything that can even be done about that Shit, I try to keep up with every promo that gets posted and even I'm overwhelmed at times by the sheer volume of content on the RP forum. Best thing I could recommend is studying your opponent's recent promos, peruse their roster app and their thread in the current storylines board to see if you can glean any useful information from either of those sources, and hey-- don't be afraid to send a PM. Most people aren't gonna bite your head off if you ask them for a brief history of their character. And oh yeah, I forgot to mention: it seems like common sense, but it really pays to give the results a thorough reading so you don't miss anything. Typically I'll skim through results when they get posted and then read them more carefully later on when I'm ready to get cracking on my promo. Of course I'll find that I missed stuff the first time. It's like "How did I miss that? Well, ya didn't read it closely enough, ya dumb shit." |
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Post by Seth on Feb 8, 2015 20:45:54 GMT -5
There was a lot said here, thanks!, I'm going to try to go through and reply to everything as best I can.
1. I wouldn't do contendership rankings. The biggest reason is that I very specifically don't always give the "number one contender" the quickest Title shot. For example if I have a great opponent for DVS, an opponent that really deserves the shot, I might wait to give him the shot at PPV instead of on Slam. Or maybe a Champ has had a lot of tough matches and I want him to defend the belt but not necessarily against someone who's at the front of the line.. that happens too. Title shots aren't 100% merit based, so rankings in that way wouldn't totally work.
2. That said, a general Power Rankings type thing could be cool - maybe I need to redo the weekly awards and do more than I do now. Waylon Cash said a few times I should add some more awards, and he was right about that.
3. Scarecrow has some good stuff there, thanks - about moving the link and a better "About Us" type quick explanation of the fed.
4. Also in Scarecrow's post.. yeah, a lot of the PPV logos are the same ones I made years ago and I was never that great to begin with. I was awfully stubborn and never wanted anyone else to make them. If anyone is reading this and would like to give it a crack, go ahead - PM me about details of what I'm looking for.
5. re: Fenix's comment about redesigning the website, I actually kind of agree there but I'm at a loss as to what I could do. Unfortunately the site is something I WOULDN'T commission someone else to do - and I'd have to commit quite a long of time to do any kind of overhaul. I'd basically have to teach myself something more advanced than what I know now, then take the time to actually DO it. It's been on my mind though.
6. Interesting idea from DVS about the rankings - not that its complex but I think its more effort than I'd put into rankings like that at the moment.
7. I like the Slam logo because it was made by the one and only Greenfever.. BUT Occulo is correct in that I don't think it reflects the current roster. That'll be something to think about.
8. Gemini Battle has some good points about getting caught up with storylines and I think my biggest thing there is hoping that everyone does a good job keeping up with their Current Storylines threads. I don't do a great job checking in on that myself, I admit.
Whoo! Lots of stuff to think about, thanks for the suggestions. Can't guarantee when I'll get off my lazy ass and try to implement, but..
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Post by Jay Omega on Feb 8, 2015 21:12:21 GMT -5
So that's a "no" on the paycheque? At least make Logan wear a bell, or something.
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<3. It comes off as a popularity contest, but...wait...it isnt??? <3
