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Post by Seth on Sept 4, 2012 18:33:51 GMT -5
I've already posted a lot on here today so I'm going to update this in the future but just wanted to reiterate what goes into the judging process. The first things I look for (in no particular order:
1. Match relevance 2. Grammar/punctuation 3. Entertainment (How enjoyable it is to read) 4. Creativity 5. Effort
Effort includes things like taking the time to find out about your opponent/opponent's storyline, etc., taking time to write a decent sized roleplay, etc.
A great RP will also include character development, but if it has no match relevance then you could find yourself on the losing end of things more often than not. A REALLY great RP will tie the character development in with the match at hand. So keep that in mind too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 21:30:51 GMT -5
When I saw that Seth had put up a thread that said "What I look for", I was expecting to see the words "in a man" follow. And then the post itself would be full of pictures of men wearing tight underwear in different poses.
And then Logan would inevitably post something about his "jumbo hotdog of treachery", someone would get offended/disgusted, I would make a gay joke and then Seth would hastily take down the thread that he while he was drunk.
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Post by ColdBlooded on Sept 9, 2012 3:11:33 GMT -5
well when i say it i thought it was going to be Jay Price holding a wash cloth over is penis with a smile face from Seth. guess i was wrong
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Post by Steve Orbit on Sept 9, 2012 12:54:05 GMT -5
I have a question about judging, something that I've kinda wondered about since I got here.
what do you do when it's too close to call? I mean, if you have two excellent RPs (or two not so great RPs, either way lol), do you fall back on other things like consistency week after week, overall character development, do you take segments and internet posts into consideration, etc? Or is everything REALLY judged on that week's RP alone?
I feel like for really big matches (title matches and the like), the whole picture should at least be considered... what I mean is, if you have a world title match, obviously everyone involved is gonna do a pretty awesome job with their RP(s) or they wouldn't be in the title picture anyway. so maybe 10% of the judging should go to consistency, overall development, or some other factors... I dunno, maybe you do that anyway, it's just something I kinda wondered about.
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Post by Seth on Sept 9, 2012 21:52:18 GMT -5
Good question. I go with my gut. Usually I end up looking at them back and forth, trying to find some factor or something that will stand out and make the winner obvious. AANNDD then eventually yeah I just go with my gut.
I do my best not to take other stuff into consideration, actually, as I feel it wouldn't be fair. Though I DO see where you're coming from. In the past it was my policy to use match writing or other contributions as a tiebreaker when I have a deadlock but yeah.
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Post by Steve Catt on Sept 10, 2012 19:43:42 GMT -5
I know nobody asked me but back when I was being asked to vote on these, in the rare instance that I thought it was a tie, I'd look at past performance - an established vet who the fed thinks more highly of would probably win if it were real life, right? Another tie-breaker would be if there was a big winning streak to keep going (although if you're not careful that can be a self-fulfilling prophecy, where someone keeps winning because they keep winning *coughTorturecough*) or if it was a title match, I'd say tie goes to the champ.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2012 19:54:20 GMT -5
When I used to be asked for my input on judging, I would look at certain things...
1. Can the writer keep my interest throughout the entire RP? Whether it was with the use of humor or just a mind-blowing amount of quality, detailed writing mixed with intiguing dialouge, I always gave tons of points to the ones I enjoyed reading.
2. I used to, and still to this day am, not a fan of using multiple images/youtube vids in an RP. One here or there can add a different element to an RP, but when you start going nuts with them I just lose interest.
3. Word count isn't always a deciding factor, but an RP that is a few paragraphs long will not beat an RP that is 3000 words.
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Post by Torture on Dec 1, 2013 21:30:58 GMT -5
Price, how can #3 be completely true if the few paragraph RP can keep your interest but the 3000 word RP has none of your interest, and above all else has 10 videos from Youtube in it. Just curious. I imagine Seth will be taking opinions/advice from others (such as yourself) in my match against Black at One.
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Post by Seth on Dec 2, 2013 0:41:53 GMT -5
Incorrect, I probably will not.
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Post by Torture on Dec 2, 2013 5:26:59 GMT -5
LOL. I'm still askin'..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 3:05:25 GMT -5
What do you take into consideration if ur tagged with someone and they no show?
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Post by raYne on Dec 13, 2013 5:46:17 GMT -5
What do you take into consideration if ur tagged with someone and they no show? Now that is a legit good question. Seth? :^/
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Post by Seth on Dec 16, 2013 21:04:02 GMT -5
Assuming that both members on the other team roleplayed, it is more than likely you'll lose. In 99% of the cases I make sure the person that didn't roleplay is the one that gets pinned though.
If one person had an excellent roleplay and their partner didn't RP and their opponents roleplays were terrible, the person with the absent partner could still win - this doesn't seem to happen often though.
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Post by SinRostroJr on Dec 6, 2014 2:49:48 GMT -5
What about length? Usually I at most do 1-3k, in a place where most do 5-6k do I have much chance at winning?
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Post by DVS on Dec 6, 2014 12:30:36 GMT -5
Length shouldnt matter as long as youve met the criteria needed, or the content is perfect for the match/storyline/angle. My recent RP was big, but that doesnt necessarily mean that Im going to win. Id just keep doing what youre doing, Sin. Eventually, once youve started moving through WCF, your RPs will become more rich with relevant content and story. Winning will become easy (although sometimes youve gotta take the loss to make you stronger).
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Post by Kaz on Dec 6, 2014 12:43:31 GMT -5
Yeah, what DVS said. Length is never indicative of the quality of a promo. Honestly, you're the first Lucha character I've seen in this fed. Not saying there haven't been others, but for the (almost) year I've been here, you're the first I've seen.
You'll want to keep it from your character's perspective. Right now, he's a little fish in da big pond and he may not know everything there is to know about the WCF. Keep your chin up and you'll be in the Luche Especial in no time.
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Post by Seth on Dec 23, 2014 2:02:29 GMT -5
My honest opinion about length of roleplays:
At the end of the day, it is something I have to take into consideration. It isn't just about a bunch of writing - if someone writes a crapload but it sucks, okay, they're not going to win - but in most cases I've found that those that take the time to write long roleplays are, generally, better writers or storytellers. There are obvious notable exceptions - Johnny Reb is the best example of someone who doesn't write long roleplays but excels in every other facet, as far as my judging. Meanwhile someone that writes a billion characters of relationship drama that has nothing to do with their character.. not quite as successful, typically.
Regardless, if I get two roleplays of roughly equal quality and one person wrote noticeably more, the person that wrote more is likely to get the win.
The lesson isn't "write more to win!," but the lesson should be "be okay with losing if you didn't have the time, energy, or creativeness to write a lot this week and your opponent did."
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Post by Chief Tom-O-Hawk on Mar 27, 2016 20:41:52 GMT -5
Time has passed, and now the follow up. Are there changes in criteria for judging, or are they pretty much the same as 16 months ago when last this thread was responded to? Also, do in-character posts outside of the rp board come into consideration?
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