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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:51:41 GMT -5
Cognitive dissonance would mean that I accept and believe what I am saying, but also accept and believe what you are saying and only act on one of those beliefs with my behavior. So put a sock in it with your cognitive dissonance
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Post by Wade Moor on Feb 9, 2017 0:52:05 GMT -5
*gasp* someone said it didn't change .... hold the phones everyone! Yep, everyone else who ever read the bible just "jumbled it" but Hallelujah! This ONE guy is the only person in history to read it right. OMG OMG OMG call it all off everyone ... this guy just read it out loud, the rest of history is wrong. Dude, he read it ... forget what you learned throughout life ... this guy is totally right. His wisdom far surpasses all of history. I mean, we all just jumbled it for 2 millennia and he is the first person in history to ever read the verse correctly. I mean shit dude, what now? LMFAO My retort: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15 Mark 13:5,22 ...'TAKE HEED, lest any man deceive you ... For false christs and false prophets shall arise and shall show signs and wonders to seduce, if possible, even the elect.' Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: Amos 8:11 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18 and 19 Revelation 5:5:And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the LION of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a LAMB as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. But this is why people aren't willing to actually discuss this shit with you because you're being a fucking nob about it.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:53:53 GMT -5
Cognitive dissonance would mean that I accept and believe what I am saying, but also accept and believe what you are saying and only act on one of those beliefs with my behavior. So put a sock in it with your cognitive dissonance OR when being faced with a fact that contradicts belief. Such as...Wait for it...the bullshit that is The Mandela Effect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:53:58 GMT -5
Stuff like this doesn't even belong in an efed in the first place lol Post on a damn FB meme and argue with strangers there.
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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:54:57 GMT -5
Figures a satanist would be arguing with me LOL.
Despite how contradictory THAT is being as Satan can't even exist without there being God since ... ya know, Satan is in THAT story.
But whatever man, you play out yourfantasy warfare. Because ultimately you expect to "disprove" God but still have Satan to worship. *smfh*
If only people could hear themselves.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:56:05 GMT -5
Figures a satanist would be arguing with me LOL. Despite how contradictory THAT is being as Satan can't even exist without there being God since ... ya know, Satan is in THAT story. But whatever man, you play out yourfantasy warfare. Because ultimately you expect to "disprove" God but still have Satan to worship. *smfh* If only people could hear themselves. Bitch please; I'm as much a satanist as you are a woman. That is to say, not at all. It's hilarious what people will actually say.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:56:26 GMT -5
>thinks Dion saying he was a Satanist was a serious statement
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:59:28 GMT -5
I can address the cognitive dissonance concept because that is something I deal with a lot as a follower of politics.
Example: Person A voted Obama. He loved it when Obama trashed Fox News. Person A hates it when Trump trashes CNN and says it makes him a fascist who hates free press.
Person B hated it when Obama trashed Fox News. Person B loves it when Trump bashes CNN.
That is cognitive dissonance.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 1:10:01 GMT -5
I can address the cognitive dissonance concept because that is something I deal with a lot as a follower of politics. Example: Person A voted Obama. He loved it when Obama trashed Fox News. Person A hates it when Trump trashes CNN and says it makes him a fascist who hates free press. Person B hated it when Obama trashed Fox News. Person B loves it when Trump bashes CNN. That is cognitive dissonance. It's more the idea of rationalizing Hitler not being evil when discussing his personal life. "A monster like that could never love!" ...Despite him being human, and even the most evil can have some good. Though, it's also Hitler, so... You're close, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 1:14:13 GMT -5
I can address the cognitive dissonance concept because that is something I deal with a lot as a follower of politics. Example: Person A voted Obama. He loved it when Obama trashed Fox News. Person A hates it when Trump trashes CNN and says it makes him a fascist who hates free press. Person B hated it when Obama trashed Fox News. Person B loves it when Trump bashes CNN. That is cognitive dissonance. It's more the idea of rationalizing Hitler not being evil when discussing his personal life. "A monster like that could never love!" ...Despite him being human, and even the most evil can have some good. Though, it's also Hitler, so... You're close, though. I agree with you, I'm just trying to break it down a little bit
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 1:18:51 GMT -5
It's more the idea of rationalizing Hitler not being evil when discussing his personal life. "A monster like that could never love!" ...Despite him being human, and even the most evil can have some good. Though, it's also Hitler, so... You're close, though. I agree with you, I'm just trying to break it down a little bit I know; that one is tricky to figure out.
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Post by erikblack on Feb 9, 2017 7:31:46 GMT -5
I do not believe anything unless I have hard evidence. I do not currently have any hard evidence which suggests there is scientific technology capable of singling out a specific phrase in one of the most if not the most mass produced books of all time and physicall rearranging the molecules which make up the ink which has settled into the paper of these books for perhaps three, five, ten or more decades in order to make it spell out different words. Think about this: replacing simply "lion" with "wolf also" is an increase of five characters in a book. Personally I have no clue how the bible looks inside of it since I haven't opened one since I was maybe five or something. But, depending on how it is organized, that could have a much bigger impact on the book itself. It has been hundreds of years since bibles have been in production; IIRC they were the first book ever to be produced by the first ever printing press. There must be an ancient example preserved for history's sake which can be looked towards as an example. I dont think it's a matter of things being changed in new bibles. It's a matter of things being changed in the bible a person has had for years. Not a new one that COULD be a mistranslation or typo.. But an old one. My cousin is highly religious and has mentioned this numerous times. He often makes videos reading directly from the bible to his kids and mentioned this exact thing the other day. The words had changed. There is really no explanation for it. I do find it funny that scientists things we could be living in a computer program and they're looking for glitches. For those of you that arent religious.. Could that be possible?
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Post by Miss L ilithenix on Feb 9, 2017 8:04:19 GMT -5
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Post by Cheyenne on Feb 9, 2017 8:45:18 GMT -5
Figures a satanist would be arguing with me LOL. Despite how contradictory THAT is being as Satan can't even exist without there being God since ... ya know, Satan is in THAT story. But whatever man, you play out yourfantasy warfare. Because ultimately you expect to "disprove" God but still have Satan to worship. *smfh* If only people could hear themselves. WHOA WHOA WHOA, hold your role baldy. Satanist do not discredit God. Not true Satanist. they acknowledge the bible and God. As Atheist true atheist believe in no higher being, so chill out mate. DA OI NIDALI OIAD
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Post by amberlynn on Feb 9, 2017 8:46:51 GMT -5
Laughing at the fact trying to imagine Dion on his knees, in a black robe, praying to Lucifer, arguing with Twilight who is, at the same time, flicking "her" bean, while holding a Bible.
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Post by Miss L ilithenix on Feb 9, 2017 8:51:49 GMT -5
Figures a satanist would be arguing with me LOL. Despite how contradictory THAT is being as Satan can't even exist without there being God since ... ya know, Satan is in THAT story. But whatever man, you play out yourfantasy warfare. Because ultimately you expect to "disprove" God but still have Satan to worship. *smfh* If only people could hear themselves. WHOA WHOA WHOA, hold your role baldy. Satanist do not discredit God. Not true Satanist. they acknowledge the bible and God. As Atheist true atheist believe in no higher being, so chill out mate. DA OI NIDALI OIAD Damn two redheads going at it... this is like a dream come true!
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Post by Greybeard on Feb 9, 2017 10:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by 6ix God on Feb 9, 2017 10:20:52 GMT -5
This quote is not about the end of times, it's about an everlasting peace through the reign of David. Here's the full quote, from Isaiah 11:6-9 as in my Oxford Study Bible
"Then the wolf will live with the lamb, and the leopard will lie down with the kid; the calf and the young lion will feed together, With a little child to tend them. The cow and the bear will be friends, and their young will lie down together; and the the lion will eat straw like cattle. The infant will play over the cobra's hole, And the young child dance over the Viper's nest. There will be neither hurt nor harm in all my hold mountain; For the land will be filled with knowledge of the Lord, As the water cover the sea."
Within the context of the whole quote, the lion laying down with the lamb actually makes very little sense while the wolf lying down with lamb makes perfect sense. Your confusion probably stems from the alliteratively pleasing nature of the mistake and mentions of lions elsewhere in the passage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 10:27:28 GMT -5
Then the lion shall lie down with the lamb, and bear shall eat grass like the ox and the child shall play on the hole of the asp and nothing shall hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain. Isaiah 11:6 If you open a bible now it reads "And the wolf also, shall dwell with the lamb." in Isaiah 11:6 This alone does not make sense. "The wolf ALSO?" as if there were indication that another creature would be lying down with the lamb. First of all, it's not just a simple change from lion to wolf. You're even quoting the scripture where it says dwell. It's not saying the wolf will lay down with the lamb. It says shall dwell with the lamb. As for the usage of the word ALSO, I see you are not someone who typically looks at more than one translation. Go to BibleGateway or wherever you look up scripture that has multiple translations. I believe KJV and any other directly related translations are the only ones that use the word also. KJV has a different style. I've also seen sites, and can link you to one, that talks about the concept of lion and lamb and how it was never a direct reference to a specific verse. It was taken from two different verses in Isaiah and put together to create the image of the lion and the lamb. This site I'm referring to was NOT addressing the Mandela effect or the idea that it was once lion and lamb. This was a completely unrelated page on a religious website.The idea of Jesus Christ being the lamb initially and the lion later on didn't come directly from this verse. I'd also like to point out to you that the Devil is referred to as a Lion more than once as well (1 Peter 5:8). I asked a preacher friend of mine about this. I'll let you know what he says when he responds. Crazy Fucked Up Scientists: We have quantum computers and hadron particle colliders that can reach into parallel universes to grab resources. This is not a theory, this is actively being done, now. We will have machines that outdo humans in 15 years. World of Sheep: Nahhhhh, it's impossible. Considering the state of robotics now coupled with the AI on computers and in games, I don't see 15 years being that much of a stretch to believe. Not sure if you saying that is you claiming the idea is bullshit. Figures a satanist would be arguing with me LOL. Despite how contradictory THAT is being as Satan can't even exist without there being God since ... ya know, Satan is in THAT story. But whatever man, you play out yourfantasy warfare. Because ultimately you expect to "disprove" God but still have Satan to worship. *smfh* If only people could hear themselves. I've never met a Satanist who actually worships Satan. I don't think you understand what Satanists actually are. This is like saying Wiccans have cauldrons and practice magic. I encourage you to speak to a few Satanists.
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Post by erikblack on Feb 9, 2017 11:31:42 GMT -5
Then the lion shall lie down with the lamb, and bear shall eat grass like the ox and the child shall play on the hole of the asp and nothing shall hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain. Isaiah 11:6 If you open a bible now it reads "And the wolf also, shall dwell with the lamb." in Isaiah 11:6 This alone does not make sense. "The wolf ALSO?" as if there were indication that another creature would be lying down with the lamb. First of all, it's not just a simple change from lion to wolf. You're even quoting the scripture where it says dwell. It's not saying the wolf will lay down with the lamb. It says shall dwell with the lamb. As for the usage of the word ALSO, I see you are not someone who typically looks at more than one translation. Go to BibleGateway or wherever you look up scripture that has multiple translations. I believe KJV and any other directly related translations are the only ones that use the word also. KJV has a different style. I've also seen sites, and can link you to one, that talks about the concept of lion and lamb and how it was never a direct reference to a specific verse. It was taken from two different verses in Isaiah and put together to create the image of the lion and the lamb. This site I'm referring to was NOT addressing the Mandela effect or the idea that it was once lion and lamb. This was a completely unrelated page on a religious website.The idea of Jesus Christ being the lamb initially and the lion later on didn't come directly from this verse. I'd also like to point out to you that the Devil is referred to as a Lion more than once as well (1 Peter 5:8). I asked a preacher friend of mine about this. I'll let you know what he says when he responds. Crazy Fucked Up Scientists: We have quantum computers and hadron particle colliders that can reach into parallel universes to grab resources. This is not a theory, this is actively being done, now. We will have machines that outdo humans in 15 years. World of Sheep: Nahhhhh, it's impossible. Considering the state of robotics now coupled with the AI on computers and in games, I don't see 15 years being that much of a stretch to believe. Not sure if you saying that is you claiming the idea is bullshit. Figures a satanist would be arguing with me LOL. Despite how contradictory THAT is being as Satan can't even exist without there being God since ... ya know, Satan is in THAT story. But whatever man, you play out yourfantasy warfare. Because ultimately you expect to "disprove" God but still have Satan to worship. *smfh* If only people could hear themselves. I've never met a Satanist who actually worships Satan. I don't think you understand what Satanists actually are. This is like saying Wiccans have cauldrons and practice magic. I encourage you to speak to a few Satanists. Uhhh....Satanists worship Satan and beleive God's word is a lie........so......yea...
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