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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 8, 2017 23:54:18 GMT -5
Just as a side note: This guy has no understanding of the meaning of "cognitive dissonance." either so yeah ...
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Post by Wade Moor on Feb 8, 2017 23:59:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 23:59:46 GMT -5
I hate to be a killjoy but it is physically impossible for every single bible in the entire world to have magically changed the words inside it. Absolutely impossible.
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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:02:41 GMT -5
Dag: Tell that to the d-wave computer guys and the hadron collider guys who are actively fucking with parallel universes and have even admitted so. In 1850 a nuclear bomb was "impossible" ... having TV and being on the internet which we are on right now was "impossible" so yeah ....
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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:05:43 GMT -5
We went from 8 pixel nintendo to shit that almost looks real in a VERY short time span. And remember, hey already have the new shit before you get it. CD's existed when cassette tapes were still new, same with DVDs to VHS ... gotta make the money on what they had for us.
So if you think they can't do what they flat out admitted they were trying to do ... man ... I feel bad for you.
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Post by Corey Black on Feb 9, 2017 0:11:02 GMT -5
I would finger Katie Perry while listening to Metalicca.
This whole thing reeks of CON SPIRACY
But what doesn't?
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:12:52 GMT -5
You seem to forget that...perhaps the pastor had it wrong the entire time.
It is okay to be wrong.
However, the rationalization of that change can be that it was the way they thought it was before, and somehow this magically changed.
Take, for example, Kit-Kat bars. Tasty chocolate bars that you break apart. Pretty simplistic example, sure, but there's something off about it.
I spelled the name of the candy wrong. Intentionally, of course, but there are people who associate the dash in Kit Kat bars, despite he dash not being there at all. It is a misinterpretation, another possible explanation for this overly publicized pseudo-phenomena that has already been defined. In this case, the jingle is to blame; there is a literal break between kit and kat, which causes the mistake.
Another good example? Charles M Schulz, the creator of Peanuts (the cartoon). For the longest time, people swore up and down that the last name was Schultz. This is more grammatical than anything else; the lz sound st the end has a natural flip before hitting the z. That explains the misinterpretation there.
Now, how does that pertain to the Bible itself?
Again, misinterpretation or false association can explain this. Similar to the Star Wars line (although that is deliberate), and when trying to rationalize the difference, they complicate things by saying it was this way before; it must have changed. But then the question becomes this; you're suggesting that millions of printings of the Bible have, at some point, been changed to reflect wolf with lamb vs lion with lamb.
So the questions become: when did this occur? How did it occur? Why was the change made? What is the likelihood of this being a simple case of misinterpretation, in this case one aasociation of a pack animal to another?
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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:13:22 GMT -5
Crazy Fucked Up Scientists: We have quantum computers and hadron particle colliders that can reach into parallel universes to grab resources. This is not a theory, this is actively being done, now. We will have machines that outdo humans in 15 years.
World of Sheep: Nahhhhh, it's impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:13:36 GMT -5
If Jaden Smith tweets were a WCF thread
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:14:04 GMT -5
Just as a side note: This guy has no understanding of the meaning of "cognitive dissonance." either so yeah ... Cash me ousai, how bou dah? Seriously, that's what you sound like here.
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Post by Odin Balfore on Feb 9, 2017 0:14:11 GMT -5
If ur not careful, progress just sneaks up on you.
I'm typing on a piece of tech that would get me thrown in jail back in 00. It has more memory than most if not all other tech in existence and contains more info than anything else in that time.
17 years ago.
And we have Mac n cheese bites now.. how did we survive y2k without them?
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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:18:41 GMT -5
You seem to forget that...perhaps the pastor had it wrong the entire time. It is okay to be wrong. However, the rationalization of that change can be that it was the way they thought it was before, and somehow this magically changed. Take, for example, Kit-Kat bars. Tasty chocolate bars that you break apart. Pretty simplistic example, sure, but there's something off about it. I spelled the name of the candy wrong. Intentionally, of course, but there are people who associate the dash in Kit Kat bars, despite he dash not being there at all. It is a misinterpretation, another possible explanation for this overly publicized pseudo-phenomena that has already been defined. In this case, the jingle is to blame; there is a literal break between kit and kat, which causes the mistake. Another good example? Charles M Schulz, the creator of Peanuts (the cartoon). For the longest time, people swore up and down that the last name was Schultz. This is more grammatical than anything else; the lz sound st the end has a natural flip before hitting the z. That explains the misinterpretation there. Now, how does that pertain to the Bible itself? Again, misinterpretation or false association can explain this. Similar to the Star Wars line (although that is deliberate), and when trying to rationalize the difference, they complicate things by saying it was this way before; it must have changed. But then the question becomes this; you're suggesting that millions of printings of the Bible have, at some point, been changed to reflect wolf with lamb vs lion with lamb. So the questions become: when did this occur? How did it occur? Why was the change made? What is the likelihood of this being a simple case of misinterpretation, in this case one aasociation of a pack animal to another? Movies and logos are very different to a book of faith. I did not put movies and logos here because they CAN be a product of misinterpretation. A book of faith is not going to be misinterpreted for centuries and millennia and then suddenly in 2016 every casual person who has so much but glanced at a bible tell everyone they have it wrong because we have "google" ... who HAVE a d-wave computer as admitted by the creatr of such computer. You are still sidetracking here. I don't care about logos or movies. You're talking 50 years and distraction there. The bible you're talking 2000 years and 1950 years without all that distraction. Again, you miss the point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:18:49 GMT -5
Man, this is a dope episode of Infowars. Alex Jones (the political figure) really outdoin' himself here.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:22:49 GMT -5
You seem to forget that...perhaps the pastor had it wrong the entire time. It is okay to be wrong. However, the rationalization of that change can be that it was the way they thought it was before, and somehow this magically changed. Take, for example, Kit-Kat bars. Tasty chocolate bars that you break apart. Pretty simplistic example, sure, but there's something off about it. I spelled the name of the candy wrong. Intentionally, of course, but there are people who associate the dash in Kit Kat bars, despite he dash not being there at all. It is a misinterpretation, another possible explanation for this overly publicized pseudo-phenomena that has already been defined. In this case, the jingle is to blame; there is a literal break between kit and kat, which causes the mistake. Another good example? Charles M Schulz, the creator of Peanuts (the cartoon). For the longest time, people swore up and down that the last name was Schultz. This is more grammatical than anything else; the lz sound st the end has a natural flip before hitting the z. That explains the misinterpretation there. Now, how does that pertain to the Bible itself? Again, misinterpretation or false association can explain this. Similar to the Star Wars line (although that is deliberate), and when trying to rationalize the difference, they complicate things by saying it was this way before; it must have changed. But then the question becomes this; you're suggesting that millions of printings of the Bible have, at some point, been changed to reflect wolf with lamb vs lion with lamb. So the questions become: when did this occur? How did it occur? Why was the change made? What is the likelihood of this being a simple case of misinterpretation, in this case one aasociation of a pack animal to another? Movies and logos are very different to a book of faith. I did not put movies and logos here because they CAN be a product of misinterpretation. A book of faith is not going to be misinterpreted for centuries and millennia and then suddenly in 2016 every casual person who has so much but glanced at a bible tell everyone they have it wrong because we have "google" ... who HAVE a d-wave computer as admitted by the creatr of such computer. You are still sidetracking here. I don't care about logos or movies. You're talking 50 years and distraction there. The bible you're talking 2000 years and 1950 years without all that distraction. Again, you miss the point. Despite the fact that modern Christianity has been pushing a false narrative this entire time?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:24:34 GMT -5
Movies and logos are very different to a book of faith. I did not put movies and logos here because they CAN be a product of misinterpretation. A book of faith is not going to be misinterpreted for centuries and millennia and then suddenly in 2016 every casual person who has so much but glanced at a bible tell everyone they have it wrong because we have "google" ... who HAVE a d-wave computer as admitted by the creatr of such computer. You are still sidetracking here. I don't care about logos or movies. You're talking 50 years and distraction there. The bible you're talking 2000 years and 1950 years without all that distraction. Again, you miss the point. I find it a bit odd to say this in a way that seems to illustrate the argument that "having google" as a way of quick fact check is invalid or of lesser value in this conspiracy driven discussion considering that Google owns that ol' YouTube place whose videos have been posted in this thread as a way to push whatever point you're trying to make. By this logic, those videos would also mean all of diddly squat.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:25:13 GMT -5
Seriously, how do you expect to have an actual discussion on this when you're simply going to dismiss explanations that go against your viewpoint?
People can be wrong about the Bible. That passage is one of the most misinterpreted passages in there (aside from Leviticus, but that is deliberate), and modern Christianity has been pushing that false narrative. This is not a shock to anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 0:25:27 GMT -5
I do not believe anything unless I have hard evidence. I do not currently have any hard evidence which suggests there is scientific technology capable of singling out a specific phrase in one of the most if not the most mass produced books of all time and physicall rearranging the molecules which make up the ink which has settled into the paper of these books for perhaps three, five, ten or more decades in order to make it spell out different words. Think about this: replacing simply "lion" with "wolf also" is an increase of five characters in a book. Personally I have no clue how the bible looks inside of it since I haven't opened one since I was maybe five or something. But, depending on how it is organized, that could have a much bigger impact on the book itself. It has been hundreds of years since bibles have been in production; IIRC they were the first book ever to be produced by the first ever printing press. There must be an ancient example preserved for history's sake which can be looked towards as an example.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:42:16 GMT -5
Oh, and just a side note: Here is an intro on cognitive dissonance. Because, unlike ME believers, I don't talk out my ass.
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Post by Sarah Twilight on Feb 9, 2017 0:49:12 GMT -5
*gasp* someone said it didn't change .... hold the phones everyone!
Yep, everyone else who ever read the bible just "jumbled it" but Hallelujah! This ONE guy is the only person in history to read it right. OMG OMG OMG call it all off everyone ... this guy just read it out loud, the rest of history is wrong. Dude, he read it ... forget what you learned throughout life ... this guy is totally right. His wisdom far surpasses all of history. I mean, we all just jumbled it for 2 millennia and he is the first person in history to ever read the verse correctly. I mean shit dude, what now?
LMFAO
My retort:
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15
Mark 13:5,22 ...'TAKE HEED, lest any man deceive you ... For false christs and false prophets shall arise and shall show signs and wonders to seduce, if possible, even the elect.'
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD: Amos 8:11
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:18 and 19
Revelation 5:5:And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the LION of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a LAMB as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
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Post by Dionysus on Feb 9, 2017 0:51:07 GMT -5
See, shit like that is why I became a satanist in the first place.
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