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Post by Corey Black on Jan 3, 2017 12:56:00 GMT -5
Well.. we don't have 14 people for one. If that was the case, Flash would have got 14 votes and I would have got 0.
Trios Titles are an afterthought to many. They're not an established title yet. Hopefully Pantheon will do that.
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jan 3, 2017 13:11:15 GMT -5
Sorry. There's 10 plus kemp, beaver, Adams (who still stalks the boards) still only 13 I apologize for the hyperbole.
Not looking to argue semantics. Just agreeing with Ultimate Destroyer and giving an example.
Again. They are three of my favorite people so it's all good. Just saying a democracy may not be the best. As it is you had to tell people not to vote multiple times with different accounts.
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Post by Lilith on Jan 3, 2017 13:14:19 GMT -5
Dude, I feel the same way. This is for Stable of the Year. Yet factions that barely accomplished anything at all were getting votes? I'm sure there's other polls with similar results which is one of the frustrating parts of OTY voting. Obviously a lot of these were self-votes by some of the members and in your stable's case troll votes due to your reaction. The other frustrating part is some people's tunnel vision of not being capable of taking into account the entire calendar year and obviously voting on the last couple of month's events. The fact that pantheon won best trios champ of 2016 when they won it at One is a perfect example. The people's choice created a whole gimmick around it and ZT worked their asses off to get it. There is no one I respect here more than Holmes/Rabid/Moor but really? If they didn't have a stable of 14 ppl voting for them then it would be a little more out of their reach I think. I got less votes combined for everything I was nominated for and I had my greatest year in WCF. I shouldn't have won a damn thing, don't get me wrong. But when a team that won titles the week before gets that many votes... maybe a democracy isn't the best way For the record though, that's the only one I disagree with. I didn't vote for all the winners but I don't disagree with any of the other ones.
I completely agree with you, Clowny... and I usually HATE those guys 
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Post by Corey Black on Jan 3, 2017 13:21:20 GMT -5
Sorry. There's 10 plus kemp, beaver, Adams (who still stalks the boards) still only 13 I apologize for the hyperbole. Not looking to argue semantics. Just agreeing with Ultimate Destroyer and giving an example. Again. They are three of my favorite people so it's all good. Just saying a democracy may not be the best. As it is you had to tell people not to vote multiple times with different accounts. Yeh, you right. There's plenty of questionable things that go down with public votes. |
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jan 3, 2017 13:23:45 GMT -5
The fact that pantheon won best trios champ of 2016 when they won it at One is a perfect example. The people's choice created a whole gimmick around it and ZT worked their asses off to get it. There is no one I respect here more than Holmes/Rabid/Moor but really? If they didn't have a stable of 14 ppl voting for them then it would be a little more out of their reach I think. I got less votes combined for everything I was nominated for and I had my greatest year in WCF. I shouldn't have won a damn thing, don't get me wrong. But when a team that won titles the week before gets that many votes... maybe a democracy isn't the best way For the record though, that's the only one I disagree with. I didn't vote for all the winners but I don't disagree with any of the other ones.
I completely agree with you, Clowny... and I usually HATE those guys
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Post by Lilith on Jan 3, 2017 13:24:41 GMT -5
I completely agree with you, Clowny... and I usually HATE those guys
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 13:44:52 GMT -5
The fact that pantheon won best trios champ of 2016 when they won it at One is a perfect example. The people's choice created a whole gimmick around it and ZT worked their asses off to get it. There is no one I respect here more than Holmes/Rabid/Moor but really? If they didn't have a stable of 14 ppl voting for them then it would be a little more out of their reach I think. First, I agree about Moor/Rabid/Holmes not being the team that should have won in comparison to other Trio Champs in 2016, but they more worthy of winning in comparison to People's Choice. I don't think you actually remember when they were champions. Here's how I'm right about this: www.wcfwrestling.com/champs.htmlLook at the Trios title champions history for 2016...the year this was voted for. People's Choice held it for the first 3 days of the year. You're right, People's Choice were great Trios champions and they created a gimmick around it but 95% of their reign was in 2015, not part of the calendar year of 2016's OTY voting block. The team of Moor/Rabid/Holmes may have only won it at One but in comparison to People's Choice, one team won the belt during 2016, the other didn't. The team that TRULY should have won Trios Champions Of The Year was Sentinels. If you look at the record of every Trios team in 2016, the Sentinels were the ONLY champions to win the belts AND defend them at least once successfully in 2016. I looked through the archives and do not recall a single time that Zero Tolerance defended their titles until One (where they lost). Working your ass off to get a belt shouldn't be taken into account for being champion of said belt by the way. I'm not sure how that makes sense at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 13:51:16 GMT -5
Sorry. There's 10 plus kemp, beaver, Adams (who still stalks the boards) still only 13 I apologize for the hyperbole. Not looking to argue semantics. Just agreeing with Ultimate Destroyer and giving an example. Again. They are three of my favorite people so it's all good. Just saying a democracy may not be the best. As it is you had to tell people not to vote multiple times with different accounts. Not every member of Pantheon or friends of the group voted for them. This is proven by just looking at the spread on the polls. I'm close friends with them and I didn't vote for them in every poll. Just the ones that I felt relevant. |
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Post by Odin Balfore on Jan 3, 2017 13:55:37 GMT -5
And zmac should have crushed internet oty with a mind boggling 301 days as champ... But he and teddy tied. Shit happens, gem
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 13:57:34 GMT -5
And zmac should have crushed internet oty with a mind boggling 301 days as champ... But he and teddy tied. Shit happens, gem There was quite a few instances of mind boggling voting this year. Oh well, it happens every year so it's not like this year is any different. |
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Post by Lilith on Jan 3, 2017 13:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by Wade Moor on Jan 3, 2017 14:03:45 GMT -5
Dude, I feel the same way. This is for Stable of the Year. Yet factions that barely accomplished anything at all were getting votes? I'm sure there's other polls with similar results which is one of the frustrating parts of OTY voting. Obviously a lot of these were self-votes by some of the members and in your stable's case troll votes due to your reaction. The other frustrating part is some people's tunnel vision of not being capable of taking into account the entire calendar year and obviously voting on the last couple of month's events. The fact that pantheon won best trios champ of 2016 when they won it at One is a perfect example. The people's choice created a whole gimmick around it and ZT worked their asses off to get it. There is no one I respect here more than Holmes/Rabid/Moor but really? If they didn't have a stable of 14 ppl voting for them then it would be a little more out of their reach I think. I got less votes combined for everything I was nominated for and I had my greatest year in WCF. I shouldn't have won a damn thing, don't get me wrong. But when a team that won titles the week before gets that many votes... maybe a democracy isn't the best way For the record though, that's the only one I disagree with. I didn't vote for all the winners but I don't disagree with any of the other ones. While I actually agree with you on this, the same could be said for the opposite side of this spectrum. Every persons reason for voting is different. I'm sure we lost votes based on his people view us IC/OOC. It happens. But this is all fake and made up so these polls don't really matter. All that matters is your proud of what you've done. <3 #TeamGem |
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Post by Corey Black on Jan 3, 2017 14:10:52 GMT -5
made up so these polls don't really matter  |
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jan 3, 2017 14:24:08 GMT -5
The fact that pantheon won best trios champ of 2016 when they won it at One is a perfect example. The people's choice created a whole gimmick around it and ZT worked their asses off to get it. There is no one I respect here more than Holmes/Rabid/Moor but really? If they didn't have a stable of 14 ppl voting for them then it would be a little more out of their reach I think. First, I agree about Moor/Rabid/Holmes not being the team that should have won in comparison to other Trio Champs in 2016, but they more worthy of winning in comparison to People's Choice. I don't think you actually remember when they were champions. Here's how I'm right about this: www.wcfwrestling.com/champs.htmlLook at the Trios title champions history for 2016...the year this was voted for. People's Choice held it for the first 3 days of the year. You're right, People's Choice were great Trios champions and they created a gimmick around it but 95% of their reign was in 2015, not part of the calendar year of 2016's OTY voting block. The team of Moor/Rabid/Holmes may have only won it at One but in comparison to People's Choice, one team won the belt during 2016, the other didn't. The team that TRULY should have won Trios Champions Of The Year was Sentinels. If you look at the record of every Trios team in 2016, the Sentinels were the ONLY champions to win the belts AND defend them at least once successfully in 2016. I looked through the archives and do not recall a single time that Zero Tolerance defended their titles until One (where they lost). Working your ass off to get a belt shouldn't be taken into account for being champion of said belt by the way. I'm not sure how that makes sense at all. Cool. Didn't realize that about the people's choice. They suck. Jk. |
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jan 3, 2017 14:26:23 GMT -5
And zmac should have crushed internet oty with a mind boggling 301 days as champ... But he and teddy tied. Shit happens, gem I know! Then Teo didn't win people's champ of the year. Again just agreeing with bad news benson in that people are using decency bias instead of seeing the whole picture. Maybe we need some type of electoral college. Then a few weeks in between to make sure no one hacks the voting |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 14:28:00 GMT -5
So it sounds like we need an electoral college foe OTY polls
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Post by 6ix God on Jan 3, 2017 14:28:08 GMT -5
Last year I lost RPotY to a song. Shit happens.
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on Jan 3, 2017 14:28:20 GMT -5
What we need is a blacklist.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 14:28:44 GMT -5
And zmac should have crushed internet oty with a mind boggling 301 days as champ... But he and teddy tied. Shit happens, gem I know! Then Teo didn't win people's champ of the year. Again just agreeing with bad news benson in that people are using decency bias instead of seeing the whole picture. Maybe we need some type of electoral college. Then a few weeks in between to make sure no one hacks the voting Oh shit we posted that at the exact sams time |
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jan 3, 2017 14:32:18 GMT -5
Last year I lost RPotY to a song. Shit happens. Shut up howie! It was a song AND video |
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