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Post by Seth on Jul 24, 2016 20:32:30 GMT -5
Seriously though, the DNC can eat ass. >
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jul 24, 2016 21:39:21 GMT -5
If you haven't seen the bad lip syncing YouTube video of the debates both democratic and repulican as well as the red Cruz promotional video bad lip syncing. Too funny
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Post by TheButcher on Jul 24, 2016 21:45:09 GMT -5
Seriously though, the DNC can eat ass. > Hey, my thread my rules, I requested NO political commentary.. Just look and laugh.. Don't you have a WCF ring to fix? lmfao
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Post by AdamYoung on Jul 25, 2016 2:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by TheButcher on Jul 25, 2016 9:39:13 GMT -5
^^^Kind of ironic.. Since KKK, Nazism, etc. is a far right organization They would NEVER vote for Obama or any Democrat.
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Post by Chief Tom-O-Hawk on Jul 25, 2016 10:08:10 GMT -5
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jul 25, 2016 14:26:23 GMT -5
^^^Kind of ironic.. Since KKK, Nazism, etc. is a far right organization They would NEVER vote for Obama or any Democrat. I completely disagree that Nazism is a far right organization, especially considering they are the "National Socialist Party", and were very much into Big Government. Of course, I view that the single line spectrum is flawed, and prefer other methods.
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Post by Doc Henry on Jul 25, 2016 14:33:16 GMT -5
^^^Kind of ironic.. Since KKK, Nazism, etc. is a far right organization They would NEVER vote for Obama or any Democrat. I completely disagree that Nazism is a far right organization, especially considering they are the "National Socialist Party", and were very much into Big Government. Of course, I view that the single line spectrum is flawed, and prefer other methods. As well as the Klan having been a militant arm of the Democratic Party...
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Post by TheButcher on Jul 25, 2016 16:56:02 GMT -5
^^^Kind of ironic.. Since KKK, Nazism, etc. is a far right organization They would NEVER vote for Obama or any Democrat. I completely disagree that Nazism is a far right organization, especially considering they are the "National Socialist Party", and were very much into Big Government. Of course, I view that the single line spectrum is flawed, and prefer other methods. See, you are mistaking economic, political and racial views. I just solely stated ONLY KKK and Nazism Is a far right group. Look that up, it's not debatable it is a fact. Now, Communism, Marxism, etc. is Far Left. Equally both not good ideals... See the difference gentlemen? Please feel free to look this info. up yourself. As stated, this is all fact. My degree is in finance, and also just shy of credits in sociology minor.
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Post by TheButcher on Jul 25, 2016 16:56:58 GMT -5
And, I also stated, no political commentary. Just wanted people to laugh. Regardless of your beliefs.
That went to hell.
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jul 25, 2016 17:12:23 GMT -5
I completely disagree that Nazism is a far right organization, especially considering they are the "National Socialist Party", and were very much into Big Government. Of course, I view that the single line spectrum is flawed, and prefer other methods. See, you are mistaking economic, political and racial views. I just solely stated ONLY KKK and Nazism Is a far right group. Look that up, it's not debatable it is a fact. Now, Communism, Marxism, etc. is Far Left. Equally both not good ideals... See the difference gentlemen? Please feel free to look this info. up yourself. As stated, this is all fact. My degree is in finance, and also just shy of credits in sociology minor. I am sorry my friend, but it is debatable. In fact, we debated the issue in Political Science last semester. This is your line; (Communism)____(Socialism)____(Liberalism)____(Middle)____(Conservatism)____(Libertarianism)____(Nazism) This means you have; (Big Government)____(Big Government)____(Big Government)____(Mix of Big and Little Government)____(Mix of Big & Little Government, with more focus on Little Governmen)____(Very little government)____(Extreme Government Control) That just doesn't make sense. Add in that Nazism was not a far right Conservative movement, but rather a far left Socialist movement with the actual party being named "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" or "National Socialist German Workers' Party", then grouping Nazism with the far right makes even less sense. A multi-axis political chart is the best system to use, such as the Nolan Chart. The left-right chart is insufficient.
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Post by Dionysus on Jul 25, 2016 17:26:32 GMT -5
Guys, I took a hiatus from Facebook to get away from political bullshit.
Could we try not dragging it in here?
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jul 25, 2016 17:27:55 GMT -5
Nazism is connected with being far right in that it's seen as racist and negative stereotypes of the right is he more right you get the more realist you are.
Not true. There are racists all over the place.
Nazis may be into extreme government control but most other issues (gun control/abortion/death penalty...) fall in line with conservatism beliefs. Hence the broken straight line system.
abortion in of itself is a paradox. Conservatives want less government control yet want the government to ban abortions. Seems contradictory.
They want less government control but want to give the government the right to choose whether people get to live or die because of the crimes they committed.
I'm neither confirming nor denying my beliefs just pointing out contradictions.
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Post by Gemini Battle on Jul 25, 2016 17:28:54 GMT -5
Guys, I took a hiatus from Facebook to get away from political bullshit. Could we try not dragging it in here? Sometimes it happens. If it gets negative then we stop. There's no need to halt a civil conversation But I agree. I don't like to mix my wrestling and politics. I get wrapped up in it sometimes though
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Post by Dionysus on Jul 25, 2016 17:34:37 GMT -5
Guys, I took a hiatus from Facebook to get away from political bullshit. Could we try not dragging it in here? Sometimes it happens. If it gets negative then we stop. There's no need to halt a civil conversation But I agree. I don't like to mix my wrestling and politics. I get wrapped up in it sometimes though Now that I'm reading it, its really just a discussion on political systems. That's cool. XD
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jul 25, 2016 17:49:09 GMT -5
Yes, I'm declining to state my exact position, though it is well known around here. Ask any of the guys here, especially if they're on my facebook; I do everything I can to ensure civility in political discussions. That being said, I'm just talking of the spectrum right now. I've always had issues with the general left-right spectrum and generally support a more inclusive multi-axis system.
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Post by TheButcher on Jul 25, 2016 19:29:41 GMT -5
OK, I am deleting this post, because I just wanted people to laugh.
And, I wanted to laugh AT the current political affairs, no matter your affiliation.
So, like Dion said, I was sick of seeing the same political BS, and I wanted ppl just to laugh.. But, some people have not followed that request.
No one can just laugh at a meme, and not comment about politics? Is it that difficult?
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Post by AdamYoung on Jul 25, 2016 19:38:36 GMT -5
Does he even know that the man who freed the slaves was a Republican and the KKK was started by Democrats. Its a fact look it up.
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jul 25, 2016 20:07:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but if you post political posts, expect political responses. At least this was very civil, and had meaningful dialogue regarding the science of politics, rather than a bunch of idiots yelling at each other as if they were at the RNC or DNC.
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Post by TheButcher on Jul 25, 2016 20:23:05 GMT -5
True, but I politely requested no one make any political commentary on the thread.
I simply had only that request, and also for everyone have a collective chuckle.
If I did not make that statement, then yes, it would be fair game for any comment (political or otherwise.)
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