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Post by Nathan "Perfection" Chambers on Jun 8, 2016 22:35:01 GMT -5
@thomasbateswcf I must have done quite a number on you in our match. Maybe you should consider putting your money where your mouth is though. How about putting that non-existant International Championship on the line this week? Whoever makes the pin goes home with the belt. @neonordicist
So we've now established you're not only a giant teddy bear, but you also have the intelligence of a stuffed animal. You're just like all those other morons who want me to break the rules and put my title up for anyone from the ONE COUNTRY they are forbidden to compete for it from. Tell you what pal, if you had the balls to actually stand up for what you believe in instead of attacking the one guy who agrees with most of what you say, then you could intellectually qualify for a shot at my title and what it represents. Get back to me when you have a voice of your own and the sense to use it right. You act like you're the one "good" republican, the one "good" Southerner, this and that, but that's nothing but an excuse to cover up your cowardice. You've only ever gotten the upper hand in a fight if you attacked your victim from behind, whether it was me, or Joey Flash. Now tell me, what kind of "good guy" does that?@chamberofsecrets That explains your entire International Title reign.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 22:36:52 GMT -5
@neonordicist
So we've now established you're not only a giant teddy bear, but you also have the intelligence of a stuffed animal. You're just like all those other morons who want me to break the rules and put my title up for anyone from the ONE COUNTRY they are forbidden to compete for it from. Tell you what pal, if you had the balls to actually stand up for what you believe in instead of attacking the one guy who agrees with most of what you say, then you could intellectually qualify for a shot at my title and what it represents. Get back to me when you have a voice of your own and the sense to use it right. You act like you're the one "good" republican, the one "good" Southerner, this and that, but that's nothing but an excuse to cover up your cowardice. You've only ever gotten the upper hand in a fight if you attacked your victim from behind, whether it was me, or Joey Flash. Now tell me, what kind of "good guy" does that? @chamberofsecrets That explains your entire International Title reign. @neonordicist
This guy keeps trying to get my attention, he's so starstruck jesus christ
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Post by Nathan "Perfection" Chambers on Jun 8, 2016 22:39:24 GMT -5
@chambersofsecrets I love how this jobber changes the topic when facts are thrown to him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2016 23:24:05 GMT -5
@cock It doesn't matter what these jokers think, they will all be choking on this before its all said and done #ResistanceIsFutile @gamerguisensei Seems like you're already doing a good enough job choking on your own Kool-aid. Shut the fuck up and let the adults talk/yell this one out. This is kind of funny and interesting, unlike you.
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jun 9, 2016 0:23:15 GMT -5
@thomasbateswcf I must have done quite a number on you in our match. Maybe you should consider putting your money where your mouth is though. How about putting that non-existant International Championship on the line this week? Whoever makes the pin goes home with the belt. @neonordicist
So we've now established you're not only a giant teddy bear, but you also have the intelligence of a stuffed animal. You're just like all those other morons who want me to break the rules and put my title up for anyone from the ONE COUNTRY they are forbidden to compete for it from. Tell you what pal, if you had the balls to actually stand up for what you believe in instead of attacking the one guy who agrees with most of what you say, then you could intellectually qualify for a shot at my title and what it represents. Get back to me when you have a voice of your own and the sense to use it right. You act like you're the one "good" republican, the one "good" Southerner, this and that, but that's nothing but an excuse to cover up your cowardice. You've only ever gotten the upper hand in a fight if you attacked your victim from behind, whether it was me, or Joey Flash. Now tell me, what kind of "good guy" does that?So in other words, you don’t want to put the International Title up for grabs. You’re afraid of that belt going to an Unreconstructed Confederate. Since you have shown the intelligence level of a flea, perhaps I should inform you that the Confederate States of America is not the United States of America, and thus eligible for the International Championship. Then again, you’re too afraid to put it on the line, so what’s the point? You doubted my commitment to honour, and you liken yourself to my cause. My cause is not bigotry. My cause is not racial superiority. My cause, Dag, is my Code of Honour, the Code of Chivalry. You do not show one shred of that code, so do not think you can liken yourself to me and associate with my cause when you know nothing of it. I am not a republican, at least not in the modern sense. I am a Jeffersonian, a Confederate, and a man completely committed to his cause. We are nothing alike. Your cowardness aligns you to the likes of Logan, and your behavior is akin to a common rat. I attacked you by denying you the ability to cower in the corner while real men fought. I denied you the ability to claim the glory off the sweat of other men. I delivered a message to your master, that the WCF will not stand idle as The Family continues to send this company to the dark abyss. You clearly did not understand the message. Such is the way with those of low intelligence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 0:24:52 GMT -5
@cock It doesn't matter what these jokers think, they will all be choking on this before its all said and done #ResistanceIsFutile @gamerguisensei Seems like you're already doing a good enough job choking on your own Kool-aid. Shut the fuck up and let the adults talk/yell this one out. This is kind of funny and interesting, unlike you. @cock Blah Blah Blah. That's all my Crazy Kids are heearing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 0:40:18 GMT -5
@gamerguisensei Seems like you're already doing a good enough job choking on your own Kool-aid. Shut the fuck up and let the adults talk/yell this one out. This is kind of funny and interesting, unlike you. @cock Blah Blah Blah. That's all my Crazy Kids are heearing. @gamerguisensei Blah, blah, blah... That's about the only thing everyone else hears out of you, ya asshat. Go talk to someone who cares, like Zombie McMoron. He loves asshats like you, but please, this conversation is for adults. Not self-important children.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 1:00:20 GMT -5
@cock Blah Blah Blah. That's all my Crazy Kids are heearing. @gamerguisensei Blah, blah, blah... That's about the only thing everyone else hears out of you, ya asshat. Go talk to someone who cares, like Zombie McMoron. He loves asshats like you, but please, this conversation is for adults. Not self-important children. @cock My Crazy Kids, listen not to the one who gives that zombie playing the rusty trombone rim jobs. They have yet to understand the real threat that is coming in the waking storm, and there is no stoping it. #ResistanceIsFutile
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Post by AdamYoung on Jun 9, 2016 1:10:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 9:22:54 GMT -5
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So we've now established you're not only a giant teddy bear, but you also have the intelligence of a stuffed animal. You're just like all those other morons who want me to break the rules and put my title up for anyone from the ONE COUNTRY they are forbidden to compete for it from. Tell you what pal, if you had the balls to actually stand up for what you believe in instead of attacking the one guy who agrees with most of what you say, then you could intellectually qualify for a shot at my title and what it represents. Get back to me when you have a voice of your own and the sense to use it right. You act like you're the one "good" republican, the one "good" Southerner, this and that, but that's nothing but an excuse to cover up your cowardice. You've only ever gotten the upper hand in a fight if you attacked your victim from behind, whether it was me, or Joey Flash. Now tell me, what kind of "good guy" does that? So in other words, you don’t want to put the International Title up for grabs. You’re afraid of that belt going to an Unreconstructed Confederate. Since you have shown the intelligence level of a flea, perhaps I should inform you that the Confederate States of America is not the United States of America, and thus eligible for the International Championship. Then again, you’re too afraid to put it on the line, so what’s the point? You doubted my commitment to honour, and you liken yourself to my cause. My cause is not bigotry. My cause is not racial superiority. My cause, Dag, is my Code of Honour, the Code of Chivalry. You do not show one shred of that code, so do not think you can liken yourself to me and associate with my cause when you know nothing of it. I am not a republican, at least not in the modern sense. I am a Jeffersonian, a Confederate, and a man completely committed to his cause. We are nothing alike. Your cowardness aligns you to the likes of Logan, and your behavior is akin to a common rat. I attacked you by denying you the ability to cower in the corner while real men fought. I denied you the ability to claim the glory off the sweat of other men. I delivered a message to your master, that the WCF will not stand idle as The Family continues to send this company to the dark abyss. You clearly did not understand the message. Such is the way with those of low intelligence. @nenordicist
Surely you can't be serious? Not only are you a delusional moron who thinks the "South will rise again!" some 150 years after their absolute defeat, but you continue to portray yourself as a man of honor while you attack people from behind and turn on your own teammates? As for your political alignment, I don't give a shit whether you call yourself a Jeffersonian, a Colombian, a Washingtonian, or a god damned green party member, what you preach is what you are. I see right through your rouge, Thomas, whether you like it or not. The question is, will you embrace your understanding of the future of mankind, or will you continue to live in fear of what other people would think of you? If you're afraid to show your true colors, then you've already lost the war. I don't give a fuck what anyone who disagrees with me thinks of me, and that's why I'm the International Champion. That's why this belt is no longer just a championship, but a title. It is my title, because I am the only one with the intelligence and understanding of diplomacy and politics worthy of calling myself the International Champion. This isn't about wins in a wrestling ring, this is about the future of mankind. I am that future, and it's up to you whether you wish to be left in the past, or follow me into a new era.
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jun 9, 2016 11:58:42 GMT -5
So in other words, you don’t want to put the International Title up for grabs. You’re afraid of that belt going to an Unreconstructed Confederate. Since you have shown the intelligence level of a flea, perhaps I should inform you that the Confederate States of America is not the United States of America, and thus eligible for the International Championship. Then again, you’re too afraid to put it on the line, so what’s the point? You doubted my commitment to honour, and you liken yourself to my cause. My cause is not bigotry. My cause is not racial superiority. My cause, Dag, is my Code of Honour, the Code of Chivalry. You do not show one shred of that code, so do not think you can liken yourself to me and associate with my cause when you know nothing of it. I am not a republican, at least not in the modern sense. I am a Jeffersonian, a Confederate, and a man completely committed to his cause. We are nothing alike. Your cowardness aligns you to the likes of Logan, and your behavior is akin to a common rat. I attacked you by denying you the ability to cower in the corner while real men fought. I denied you the ability to claim the glory off the sweat of other men. I delivered a message to your master, that the WCF will not stand idle as The Family continues to send this company to the dark abyss. You clearly did not understand the message. Such is the way with those of low intelligence. @nenordicist
Surely you can't be serious? Not only are you a delusional moron who thinks the "South will rise again!" some 150 years after their absolute defeat, but you continue to portray yourself as a man of honor while you attack people from behind and turn on your own teammates? As for your political alignment, I don't give a shit whether you call yourself a Jeffersonian, a Colombian, a Washingtonian, or a god damned green party member, what you preach is what you are. I see right through your rouge, Thomas, whether you like it or not. The question is, will you embrace your understanding of the future of mankind, or will you continue to live in fear of what other people would think of you? If you're afraid to show your true colors, then you've already lost the war. I don't give a fuck what anyone who disagrees with me thinks of me, and that's why I'm the International Champion. That's why this belt is no longer just a championship, but a title. It is my title, because I am the only one with the intelligence and understanding of diplomacy and politics worthy of calling myself the International Champion. This isn't about wins in a wrestling ring, this is about the future of mankind. I am that future, and it's up to you whether you wish to be left in the past, or follow me into a new era.Am I delusional? No, I am not. I am not delusional as to the threads of Unity being ripped from the seams of this Nation. With our government run amok and career politicians replacing statesmen, it is only a matter of time for the seeds of disunity to sprout into the solid tree of Secession once more. Already there have been calls of Constitutional Conventions, Nullification of unconstitutional laws, and yes even calls for Secession itself. It is not delusional to accept the inevitability of the resurgence of independence in this Nation. I align myself not with the government of usurpers masquerading as our elected representatives, but rather to the ideals of our ancestors which I for one keep dear to my heart. Amongst the ideals of which I hold dear to my heart, is the Code of Chivalry, of Honour. Within this Code is the duty of protecting the innocent, and defending against the evils of the World. You, Mr. Riddik, are of that evil. I endeavor to protect the WCF, and if need be the world, against the likes of you and your masters. No greater duty has befallen me than to protect others from evil, and I assure you that I will tend to my duties. You parade yourself as the future, and you believe you condemn me to the past. You may very well be the future, Mr. Riddik, but progress is not always progressive of the human condition. I look to the streets today and I see this so-called progress every day. I see men and women preying on one another, waiting for their victim to make that one mistake. I see men waving the banner of equality while depriving men of their equal rights. I see complete disregard to our laws, to our heritage, to our honour, and I see the complete deprivation of society itself. Men no longer give their seats to elders or women. Men no longer open the doors, but when one exception reveals itself it is chastised by today’s society. I see commitments to televisions shows, movies, YouTube videos, and no commitment to the scholarly teachings of great writers. I see the future, Mr. Riddik, and it is a dark place indeed. I am proud to be a defender of the past, and I shall hold that mantle proudly, no matter your condemnation of my status.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 12:50:56 GMT -5
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Surely you can't be serious? Not only are you a delusional moron who thinks the "South will rise again!" some 150 years after their absolute defeat, but you continue to portray yourself as a man of honor while you attack people from behind and turn on your own teammates? As for your political alignment, I don't give a shit whether you call yourself a Jeffersonian, a Colombian, a Washingtonian, or a god damned green party member, what you preach is what you are. I see right through your rouge, Thomas, whether you like it or not. The question is, will you embrace your understanding of the future of mankind, or will you continue to live in fear of what other people would think of you? If you're afraid to show your true colors, then you've already lost the war. I don't give a fuck what anyone who disagrees with me thinks of me, and that's why I'm the International Champion. That's why this belt is no longer just a championship, but a title. It is my title, because I am the only one with the intelligence and understanding of diplomacy and politics worthy of calling myself the International Champion. This isn't about wins in a wrestling ring, this is about the future of mankind. I am that future, and it's up to you whether you wish to be left in the past, or follow me into a new era. Am I delusional? No, I am not. I am not delusional as to the threads of Unity being ripped from the seams of this Nation. With our government run amok and career politicians replacing statesmen, it is only a matter of time for the seeds of disunity to sprout into the solid tree of Secession once more. Already there have been calls of Constitutional Conventions, Nullification of unconstitutional laws, and yes even calls for Secession itself. It is not delusional to accept the inevitability of the resurgence of independence in this Nation. I align myself not with the government of usurpers masquerading as our elected representatives, but rather to the ideals of our ancestors which I for one keep dear to my heart. Amongst the ideals of which I hold dear to my heart, is the Code of Chivalry, of Honour. Within this Code is the duty of protecting the innocent, and defending against the evils of the World. You, Mr. Riddik, are of that evil. I endeavor to protect the WCF, and if need be the world, against the likes of you and your masters. No greater duty has befallen me than to protect others from evil, and I assure you that I will tend to my duties. You parade yourself as the future, and you believe you condemn me to the past. You may very well be the future, Mr. Riddik, but progress is not always progressive of the human condition. I look to the streets today and I see this so-called progress every day. I see men and women preying on one another, waiting for their victim to make that one mistake. I see men waving the banner of equality while depriving men of their equal rights. I see complete disregard to our laws, to our heritage, to our honour, and I see the complete deprivation of society itself. Men no longer give their seats to elders or women. Men no longer open the doors, but when one exception reveals itself it is chastised by today’s society. I see commitments to televisions shows, movies, YouTube videos, and no commitment to the scholarly teachings of great writers. I see the future, Mr. Riddik, and it is a dark place indeed. I am proud to be a defender of the past, and I shall hold that mantle proudly, no matter your condemnation of my status. @neonordicist
This is the majority of the problem with you, Thomas. You think you represent the greatness which can save this nation, but I know that it is beyond saving, especially with your soft stance on the hard issues. If there is talk again of secession, then let me go on record as saying every single one of those speakers is definitively insane. You do know the definition of insanity, don't you? Secession failed before, and it would fail again. Don't you know anything about history? If we do not learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes we made before. Secession is a historical mistake, and to attempt it again would be pure folly. You, my friend, are stuck in the past, yet you know so little about it. I do represent the future, I assure you, and everything I stand for is for the benefit of the human race, not only in America, not only in Greater Scandinavia, but across the entire civilized world. It's up to you whether you wish to be a part of this great future, this utopia I am creating, or if you want to be stuck in the past with all the incompetent morons who cherish their freedom to take freedom away from others. You see, America has become like Poland of old, clutching to a "Golden Freedom" that its citizens actually believe is best for them while the politicians and capitalists manipulate this freedom to their whim. It is impossible for the citizens to become aware of this situation, because no matter how this freedom is sodomized, those in power have the ability to convince those they control that this incarnation of freedom is the only one. You are being subjugated by the illusion of free will, Thomas, and I weep for you. You have so much potential, but you know not what you are capable of. Truly, you barely even know what you are talking about most of the time, much less honestly believe it. You are nothing but a product of this situation you were brought up in. You are a direct reaction to the liberal resurgence, and you gladly lap up the information dictated to you by those who offer you an alternative to the madness. You are only capable of thinking what you've been told to think, and this information is just as false and ridiculous as the nonsense spewed by liberals. You are a puppet, being used by the republican party's bought out powers to press the agenda of industry. By parading you around as a "good guy," they hope to convert more followers of their cause. The problem is, whether the party of choice is democrat or republican, they are both equally in the pockets of oppressive capitalism. You are a cog in the machine, Thomas, and I wonder if you are capable of waking up. This is why you do not have the absolute conviction to your values that I do. Would you kill for what you believe in? What lengths would you go to? Would you die for your cause? I would do all this and more because I have seen the truth and am convicted that there are no other truths before it. I didn't need a divine fairy tale to tell me this is true, either.
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Post by Thomas Uriel Bates on Jun 9, 2016 13:29:57 GMT -5
Am I delusional? No, I am not. I am not delusional as to the threads of Unity being ripped from the seams of this Nation. With our government run amok and career politicians replacing statesmen, it is only a matter of time for the seeds of disunity to sprout into the solid tree of Secession once more. Already there have been calls of Constitutional Conventions, Nullification of unconstitutional laws, and yes even calls for Secession itself. It is not delusional to accept the inevitability of the resurgence of independence in this Nation. I align myself not with the government of usurpers masquerading as our elected representatives, but rather to the ideals of our ancestors which I for one keep dear to my heart. Amongst the ideals of which I hold dear to my heart, is the Code of Chivalry, of Honour. Within this Code is the duty of protecting the innocent, and defending against the evils of the World. You, Mr. Riddik, are of that evil. I endeavor to protect the WCF, and if need be the world, against the likes of you and your masters. No greater duty has befallen me than to protect others from evil, and I assure you that I will tend to my duties. You parade yourself as the future, and you believe you condemn me to the past. You may very well be the future, Mr. Riddik, but progress is not always progressive of the human condition. I look to the streets today and I see this so-called progress every day. I see men and women preying on one another, waiting for their victim to make that one mistake. I see men waving the banner of equality while depriving men of their equal rights. I see complete disregard to our laws, to our heritage, to our honour, and I see the complete deprivation of society itself. Men no longer give their seats to elders or women. Men no longer open the doors, but when one exception reveals itself it is chastised by today’s society. I see commitments to televisions shows, movies, YouTube videos, and no commitment to the scholarly teachings of great writers. I see the future, Mr. Riddik, and it is a dark place indeed. I am proud to be a defender of the past, and I shall hold that mantle proudly, no matter your condemnation of my status. @neonordicist
This is the majority of the problem with you, Thomas. You think you represent the greatness which can save this nation, but I know that it is beyond saving, especially with your soft stance on the hard issues. If there is talk again of secession, then let me go on record as saying every single one of those speakers is definitively insane. You do know the definition of insanity, don't you? Secession failed before, and it would fail again. Don't you know anything about history? If we do not learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes we made before. Secession is a historical mistake, and to attempt it again would be pure folly. You, my friend, are stuck in the past, yet you know so little about it. I do represent the future, I assure you, and everything I stand for is for the benefit of the human race, not only in America, not only in Greater Scandinavia, but across the entire civilized world. It's up to you whether you wish to be a part of this great future, this utopia I am creating, or if you want to be stuck in the past with all the incompetent morons who cherish their freedom to take freedom away from others. You see, America has become like Poland of old, clutching to a "Golden Freedom" that its citizens actually believe is best for them while the politicians and capitalists manipulate this freedom to their whim. It is impossible for the citizens to become aware of this situation, because no matter how this freedom is sodomized, those in power have the ability to convince those they control that this incarnation of freedom is the only one. You are being subjugated by the illusion of free will, Thomas, and I weep for you. You have so much potential, but you know not what you are capable of. Truly, you barely even know what you are talking about most of the time, much less honestly believe it. You are nothing but a product of this situation you were brought up in. You are a direct reaction to the liberal resurgence, and you gladly lap up the information dictated to you by those who offer you an alternative to the madness. You are only capable of thinking what you've been told to think, and this information is just as false and ridiculous as the nonsense spewed by liberals. You are a puppet, being used by the republican party's bought out powers to press the agenda of industry. By parading you around as a "good guy," they hope to convert more followers of their cause. The problem is, whether the party of choice is democrat or republican, they are both equally in the pockets of oppressive capitalism. You are a cog in the machine, Thomas, and I wonder if you are capable of waking up. This is why you do not have the absolute conviction to your values that I do. Would you kill for what you believe in? What lengths would you go to? Would you die for your cause? I would do all this and more because I have seen the truth and am convicted that there are no other truths before it. I didn't need a divine fairy tale to tell me this is true, either.You say I need to learn from history, when it fact it is you that could benefit from a lesson. The Secession of 1861 was successful, but so too was the Conquest of the Confederacy by the Union. Does this mean that secession should cease to be a tool in the hands of the States dissatisfied with the corruption of the National government? Secession is not a failed concept, Mr. Riddik, it is a concept used time and time again in the course of human events. Our own ancestors seceded from the British Empire in 1776, and again from their own government in 1788. Not to mention the history of secession on a global scale, of which includes your beloved Norway which dissolved their own Union with Sweden in 1905. No, Mr. Riddik, Secession is not a historical mistake, but rather a necessary tool in the arsenal of Liberty. Men are born with certain unalienable rights, and when a government deprives the people of these rights, it is the duty of the citizenry to throw away the chains of oppression and either change their government, or withdraw its consent for the government and entrust such consent with another. I do not expect you to understand liberty, nor do I expect you to understand the laws of this once great Nation, nor Mr. Riddik, do I expect you to understand the history of humanity. You claim that your way benefits the human race. How so, Mr. Riddik? You wish to throw away the chains of slavery from one, and transfer it to another. I wish to throw away the chains in its entirety. You take the beating from the liberal elites and seek your revenge in the name of “benefit” rather than seeking a lasting balance to secure the liberties of all humanity. You feel as if you, and only you, know what would carry the human race to prosperity, but we have all heard these stories before. We have heard it from the likes of tyrannical dictators the world over. Make no mistake Mr. Riddik, these dictators have each felt the fiery sword of liberty, just as you will this Sunday. I am fully aware of the illusion of free will, which is why I have fought to ensure the survival of liberty in this crumbling republic. I did lose my election, as did many others who fought for our Constitutional rights, but so long as there is breath in my body, so long as free men exist, we will fight for liberty. I know my potential, Mr. Riddik, and I know the potential of the people. To allow you to throw that potential away in an embrace of insanity, that I cannot permit. I have taken comfort in the readings of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine, John Locke, Cesare Beccaria, and many others that have greatly influenced the concept of Liberty. I take hold their cause, and make it my own. That while all men are born free and endowed with unalienable rights, we must stand firm against those, such as yourself, that wish to strip us of these rights. I would die for my cause, Mr. Riddik, I would even kill for it. I would gladly take the stand for liberty even if I were to face the Executioner’s Axe. You claim the same, but your convictions have shown otherwise. You are talk, Mr. Riddk, nothing more. You give your speeches, you give your writings, you complain, you condemn, you parade about in your false sense of higher intelligence, but what have you done with it? You are no better than the liberals of which you condemn. I have stood at the steps of my country’s capital and demanded our rights. I have fought for a seat as a representative of my State, Alabama. Not for selfish gains, or to pursue some great change towards a failed system, but rather to return us to the system in which our Founding Fathers laid out for us. To ensure that the rights of all men were protected from the likes of you. I stand by my commitment, as I fight you this Sunday. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” The tree must be refreshed, Mr. Riddik, and this Sunday, it will be.
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Post by Corey Black on Jun 9, 2016 14:14:37 GMT -5
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Post by Nathan "Perfection" Chambers on Jun 9, 2016 14:30:01 GMT -5
@chamberofsecrets About time somebody put a stop to this pointless argument.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 18:18:22 GMT -5
@neonordicist
This is the majority of the problem with you, Thomas. You think you represent the greatness which can save this nation, but I know that it is beyond saving, especially with your soft stance on the hard issues. If there is talk again of secession, then let me go on record as saying every single one of those speakers is definitively insane. You do know the definition of insanity, don't you? Secession failed before, and it would fail again. Don't you know anything about history? If we do not learn from our history, we are doomed to repeat the mistakes we made before. Secession is a historical mistake, and to attempt it again would be pure folly. You, my friend, are stuck in the past, yet you know so little about it. I do represent the future, I assure you, and everything I stand for is for the benefit of the human race, not only in America, not only in Greater Scandinavia, but across the entire civilized world. It's up to you whether you wish to be a part of this great future, this utopia I am creating, or if you want to be stuck in the past with all the incompetent morons who cherish their freedom to take freedom away from others. You see, America has become like Poland of old, clutching to a "Golden Freedom" that its citizens actually believe is best for them while the politicians and capitalists manipulate this freedom to their whim. It is impossible for the citizens to become aware of this situation, because no matter how this freedom is sodomized, those in power have the ability to convince those they control that this incarnation of freedom is the only one. You are being subjugated by the illusion of free will, Thomas, and I weep for you. You have so much potential, but you know not what you are capable of. Truly, you barely even know what you are talking about most of the time, much less honestly believe it. You are nothing but a product of this situation you were brought up in. You are a direct reaction to the liberal resurgence, and you gladly lap up the information dictated to you by those who offer you an alternative to the madness. You are only capable of thinking what you've been told to think, and this information is just as false and ridiculous as the nonsense spewed by liberals. You are a puppet, being used by the republican party's bought out powers to press the agenda of industry. By parading you around as a "good guy," they hope to convert more followers of their cause. The problem is, whether the party of choice is democrat or republican, they are both equally in the pockets of oppressive capitalism. You are a cog in the machine, Thomas, and I wonder if you are capable of waking up. This is why you do not have the absolute conviction to your values that I do. Would you kill for what you believe in? What lengths would you go to? Would you die for your cause? I would do all this and more because I have seen the truth and am convicted that there are no other truths before it. I didn't need a divine fairy tale to tell me this is true, either. You say I need to learn from history, when it fact it is you that could benefit from a lesson. The Secession of 1861 was successful, but so too was the Conquest of the Confederacy by the Union. Does this mean that secession should cease to be a tool in the hands of the States dissatisfied with the corruption of the National government? Secession is not a failed concept, Mr. Riddik, it is a concept used time and time again in the course of human events. Our own ancestors seceded from the British Empire in 1776, and again from their own government in 1788. Not to mention the history of secession on a global scale, of which includes your beloved Norway which dissolved their own Union with Sweden in 1905. No, Mr. Riddik, Secession is not a historical mistake, but rather a necessary tool in the arsenal of Liberty. Men are born with certain unalienable rights, and when a government deprives the people of these rights, it is the duty of the citizenry to throw away the chains of oppression and either change their government, or withdraw its consent for the government and entrust such consent with another. I do not expect you to understand liberty, nor do I expect you to understand the laws of this once great Nation, nor Mr. Riddik, do I expect you to understand the history of humanity. You claim that your way benefits the human race. How so, Mr. Riddik? You wish to throw away the chains of slavery from one, and transfer it to another. I wish to throw away the chains in its entirety. You take the beating from the liberal elites and seek your revenge in the name of “benefit” rather than seeking a lasting balance to secure the liberties of all humanity. You feel as if you, and only you, know what would carry the human race to prosperity, but we have all heard these stories before. We have heard it from the likes of tyrannical dictators the world over. Make no mistake Mr. Riddik, these dictators have each felt the fiery sword of liberty, just as you will this Sunday. I am fully aware of the illusion of free will, which is why I have fought to ensure the survival of liberty in this crumbling republic. I did lose my election, as did many others who fought for our Constitutional rights, but so long as there is breath in my body, so long as free men exist, we will fight for liberty. I know my potential, Mr. Riddik, and I know the potential of the people. To allow you to throw that potential away in an embrace of insanity, that I cannot permit. I have taken comfort in the readings of Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Thomas Paine, John Locke, Cesare Beccaria, and many others that have greatly influenced the concept of Liberty. I take hold their cause, and make it my own. That while all men are born free and endowed with unalienable rights, we must stand firm against those, such as yourself, that wish to strip us of these rights. I would die for my cause, Mr. Riddik, I would even kill for it. I would gladly take the stand for liberty even if I were to face the Executioner’s Axe. You claim the same, but your convictions have shown otherwise. You are talk, Mr. Riddk, nothing more. You give your speeches, you give your writings, you complain, you condemn, you parade about in your false sense of higher intelligence, but what have you done with it? You are no better than the liberals of which you condemn. I have stood at the steps of my country’s capital and demanded our rights. I have fought for a seat as a representative of my State, Alabama. Not for selfish gains, or to pursue some great change towards a failed system, but rather to return us to the system in which our Founding Fathers laid out for us. To ensure that the rights of all men were protected from the likes of you. I stand by my commitment, as I fight you this Sunday. As Thomas Jefferson once wrote, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” The tree must be refreshed, Mr. Riddik, and this Sunday, it will be. @neonordicist
How dare you step up to me as though you have a superior knowledge of the history of my great nation, or any of Greater Scandinavia! Either way, you are barely even correct, as the combination of Norway and Sweden was much different than that of the United Kingdom and the Thirteen Colonies, and especially that of the Union and the Confederacy. That was a personal union with the King of Sweden having but diplomatic control over Norway, not unlike the puppeteer Soviet state and their Eastern Bloc satellites. Norway had the freedom to its own army, its own navy, its own parliament, and many other rights, while Sweden protected it from the imperial aims of imposing neighbors like Britain or Russia. This union should have been expounded upon, not dissolved, and it would have had not the damn Danes been so stubborn. Secession does not solve problems, it expounds upon them. How can one group of people claim that they are leaving an unjust government for the greater good, and yet leave the people they do not take with them to the whims of said unjust government?
Secession is the coward's way out, I assure you. Instead of actually doing something about the government you oppose, you opt to seek the protection of another government, such as Britain and France in the Confederacy's case, thus weakening the "once great nation" you claim to weep for the destruction of. You dare try and tell me that I do nothing for my cause? If only you could know, boy. Thomas, I've done far, far more than you could ever imagine. While you pour your sweat in the early morning hours under the desk lamps as you write your manifestos for the political restructuring of the United States of America, I have shed my blood, my brothers' blood, my sisters' blood, and the blood of those who dare oppose the future of shared prosperity at the expense of their personal power and greed.
Tell me this, Thomas, do you honestly believe that you can achieve any kind of change whatsoever through the political system of America? Are you fucking stupid? Do you know why I'm voting Trump, Thomas? It's not for his promised political reforms, it's not for the change he aims to bring to this country or the reformation of the global balance of power he speaks of. Most certainly not, for he will be able to achieve absolutely none of this. I am doing it for two reasons. On one hand, I am doing it for my own personal amusement. The rage he brings out of social justice warriors and the sniveling subhumans inhabiting this country is extremely entertaining. More importantly, however, I am voting for him to take this country one step further towards its destruction. This country, my friend, or what's left of it, is beyond saving through any means the people who live here would accept. Because of morons like you who cling to the solutions of the past (or failed solutions such as secession) as though they are a god given truth, the future of humanity will stagnate and fail to achieve progress beyond the inevitable decline in which we are stuck.
To break away from the monarchy, what did the founding fathers have to do? To break away from the Union, what did Lee have to do, eh? Take Risks. Innovate. Find new ways to do things, because the old ways aren't working. It is said that the downfall of every great nation is inevitable. Why is that? Almost every nation in the world today has been the subject of absolute destruction at one time or another. France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, every Balkan state, Turkey, Russia, Spain, Poland, Denmark, and the list goes on and on. Every one of these nations has been forged anew from the ashes of the fires which consumed them entirely. Whether it be from enemies foreign, or domestic, the future of humanity has been shaped by the implosion of nations which collapsed under the unbearable weight of their own failures. Not even the good ol' USA is immune to these issues. Four, four presidents, assassinated. One civil war. Countless physical attacks during election years that were politically fueled. The problem must not be lack of freedom, nor the right amount of freedom... It's too much freedom.
The way I see it, it doesn't need to be this way. There are ways to govern a people for their own good, and for the good of the nation, but this has never been attempted in the history of humanity. No matter what, there has never been a single perfect nation which was willing to sustain every one of its citizens, from the poor, to the rich, to the leaders, to the soldiers. I know why, though. It's because that is impossible. The freedom to choose what you want to be is nothing but an illusion. In the government's eyes, we are all equal, and we are all equally worthless. The problem is, the "government" does not only include those in positions of political power. In fact, in many cases, it includes very, very few of said demographic. In reality, with all the smoke cleared and the mirrors shattered, the governing body of all nations is the rich. Currency drives the whims of nations, for their benefit and their demise. You fight, without knowledge of it, for the profit of those in power. There is absolutely no difference between the leading democrats, the republicans, the libertarians or Jeffersonians of whatever else. They are all profiteers using you like common house tools, and you are too stupid to know that. I know that things have to change drastically before the human race can accomplish true prosperity as our forebears wished us to have. I refuse to let a pissant like you stand in the way of progress.
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Post by Oblivion on Jun 9, 2016 19:26:01 GMT -5
@oblivionisgod
Now I have seen everything!! It explains everything!! It explains why everyone in The Family shares a chromosome... THEY SUPPORT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. First of all, we live in America. We can support anyone. But.... BUT... we have to draw the line in the sand somewhere with that Giant Orange Toad. Every time he leans his head back and grins, he croaks...
Just like The Family. Especially, Sethie Poo.... They walk around here here talking trash. Like anyone is paying attention or if anything they are saying has an inkling of importance. Just wait boys for beat down.... YOUR GOOD OLD FASHIONED BEATDOWNS.
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Post by Nathan "Perfection" Chambers on Jun 9, 2016 21:18:53 GMT -5
@chamberofsecrets Do they use an app to expand on the Twitter limit of characters?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:41:00 GMT -5
@gamerguisensei
I deal with personal shit and I come back to THIS? Oblivion, please do NOT lump me in with Dag and his political alignment. You do not know me that well. Second, the time for talk has obviously passed, and we're now just pissing in the wind. Time to take this to the ring. End this petty bullshit arguing, already.
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Post by Seth on Jun 10, 2016 1:33:06 GMT -5
@sethhatestwitter
Scissor me timbers!
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