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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 14:03:01 GMT -5
It was brought up in the rankings thread that maybe we could get rid of the No Contests in regards to the records listed on the rankings, as it lowers the person's Win %. I'm just trying to gauge the overall feeling on the subject to make a decision.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 15:28:02 GMT -5
LOVE the People Power image. Anyway, I personally think they should stay. If the person you were matched up against was just as good as you, that should be reflected in your win/loss record.
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Post by Doc Henry on May 22, 2012 19:44:08 GMT -5
But you didn't win the match so it should negatively affect win%
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 20:05:57 GMT -5
But you didn't win the match so it should negatively affect win% See that's one of my main points. |
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Post by Corey Black on May 22, 2012 22:08:28 GMT -5
Too many storylined endings this way, I think. They shouldn't be put on win/loss records, that's sucky.
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Post by Doc Henry on May 22, 2012 22:20:20 GMT -5
Still storylined or not, it's not a win...
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Post by Odin Balfore on May 22, 2012 22:30:52 GMT -5
take triple threat matches. if you win, then its a win. if you get pin, it counts as a loss but if you dont get pinned, why should it count against you?
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Post by Benjamin Atreyu on May 22, 2012 22:35:09 GMT -5
take triple threat matches. if you win, then its a win. if you get pin, it counts as a loss but if you dont get pinned, why should it count against you? I figured that would just be counted as a loss. |
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Post by Jonny Fly on May 22, 2012 22:43:43 GMT -5
take triple threat matches. if you win, then its a win. if you get pin, it counts as a loss but if you dont get pinned, why should it count against you? I figured that would just be counted as a loss. I'd think in that example it should. There are other examples, like CD pointed out, where tie matches are counting against people for really no good reason. These matches are no contests by design, not losses, and that's essentially how they are being calculated right now. It's all basically trivial. I just don't see why people planning out an angle that involves no decision(s) basically being scored as losses for both. I'm sure there are also circumstances where Seth literally can't pick a winner in a match and decides to end it in a draw, and both guy's percentages fall. That seems a bit off, but that's just my opinion on it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 23:16:39 GMT -5
It sounds to me like the argument is whether or not we should make storyline outcomes part of the W/L record.
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Post by Doc Henry on May 22, 2012 23:37:32 GMT -5
How about we all stop being so butthurt about it and just have fucking fun?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2012 23:55:06 GMT -5
How about we all stop being so butthurt about it and just have fucking fun? I agree. It's not a big deal to me what Chad's record looks like. |
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Post by The Polar Phantasm on May 23, 2012 1:50:57 GMT -5
That Future Gods banner looks sick, yo.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 5:41:35 GMT -5
I completely disagree with taking out storylined wins or losses. Although I would have a wayyyyy better record if we took out storylined endings, I had those matches angled just because I believed I had to lose and didn't want to leave it up to "fate".
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Post by Jonny Fly on May 23, 2012 6:28:18 GMT -5
How about we all stop being so butthurt about it and just have fucking fun? Who is butthurt? I don't even have a tie in my record. Can't even have a constructive conversation? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2012 9:30:17 GMT -5
Can't even have a constructive conversation? To have a conversation in WCF that doesn't include the words "butt" "hurt" "butthurt" or "buttsecks" somewhere in it is it fucking miracle. |
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Post by Corey Black on May 23, 2012 9:31:32 GMT -5
Constructive conversation? In MY WCF? Naaah.
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Post by Jonny Fly on May 23, 2012 9:54:58 GMT -5
Haha. I get it.
Wrote that before I had any coffee this morning so I viewed it more of a thread hijack attempt at something he just didn't agree with rather than lol's.
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Post by Seth on May 23, 2012 12:03:50 GMT -5
It depends what these rankings are even for. Are they an OOC tool to measure how good you are at roleplaying, or are they an in character indication of how your character is doing? I've always imagined they're the latter, so I think storylined losses/wins should definitely count. Also because sometimes people decide on storylined outcomes but its not announced to the whole fed so its not like Jay would even know whats storylined and what isnt.
I'd definitely think no contests should count too, because.. why not? No one here should be competing to try and get a good win/loss record or to try to climb this ladder. If we try to manipulate what counts/doesn't count towards the rankings then it really kind of loses its integrity.
EDIT: And keep in mind, if anyone just wants to do their own win/loss for their characters and take out storylined decisions and no contests.. feel free, thats your prerogative, the ladder really shouldn't be a pissing contest.
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Post by Jonny Fly on May 23, 2012 12:27:23 GMT -5
Just to clarify, my comments in this thread are solely about how we calculate winning percentage in the rankings. I think we're off-topic talking about losses when the issue originally was ties/no contests.
Anyways, the votes speak for themselves on the issue.
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