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Post by Allen Guiliano on May 9, 2016 0:00:42 GMT -5
I have simply been observing from afar the last few days and watched all of this unfold, but because of my membership status I will refrain from making any overly opinionated statements. All I know is that I feel very close to this place, enjoyed the hell out of the time I spent here and have the utmost respect for those who have kept it going strong for so many years. I tend to see things the way that Corey does and it appears to me that this may be a fracture that cannot be repaired unless there is some serious discussions between the active management. I hope that it all works out for everyone and I believe that it will persevere.
Now that I have gotten that off my chest, I have but one question. Joey, are will still doing this thing or what? I was furious to see that XIII had been scrapped, because, frankly, I got inspired to sit down and bang out an RP in an attempt to entertain the masses at least one more time. That is what I am here for is to entertain and hopefully prove that I still have at least something left in the tank. I think I am going to post what I have regardless of the standing of this fed, because, well, I like what I have put together and I just hope that some of you will to. If this is indeed "the end", then I want to at least be part of it.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 0:22:26 GMT -5
Finally got through all the stuff...
Saw the Logan post. I'm physically ill.
I developed an allergy to alcohol, thanks to trying to drink myself to death a few years ago, and I want to try again tonight because that is how shitty I feel right now over the Logan thing. I worked with the guy, and didn't really know much about what was going on OOC at the time due to my brand noobness (early 2014, I believe) and I was also in the process of trying to drink myself to death (beginning stages, anyways). Things at that time were not as bad as now, but pretty damn close is all I remember. Part of the reason why I departed for some time, truth be told. raYne was around at that time, and I was being harassed quite a bit by him because I did not want to work with him anymore. Of course, a week after I leave, he's permabanned, but that's ancient history that I really don't want to remember/can't remember.
Jay's view on the Joey and Howie Show I can echo. That was pretty cut and dry. Jay wasn't the only guy who got bagged on in that show because Joey's not a fan. Pretty much most members of the DRG suffered some negative feedback from him at some point, with the exception of Gemini Battle and Spencer Adams. I believe that Joey and Howie's views were what prompted Spencer to leave after making a commitment to the DRG, and assisting in the collapse of the DRG to begin with. But that is just a personal view. I hold no ill will towards Spencer/Aquarius if he felt it would best benefit his character to depart company with the DRG anymore. The best way to solve it? End the podcasts, or start your own fed where you can be Seth and you can direct traffic as you see fit. It is a harsh view/solution, but it is the only logical one I can come up with where people are not so furious at Flash for his podcasts, when there really hasn't been much of a change in his demeanor. This can also be echoed in his interactions in the chatroom, as well. Twilight was accused of trash talking many within the fed OOC, and everyone freaks. But when Joey does it, its okay?
Twilight has some valid points in regards to moderators/admin. While I never bring up any of my issues with the mods (because I bottle shit up, because that is who I am/developed into as a person), I also feel that if I did bring up an issue with most of the active mods, I would be brushed off because for whatever reason, I am disliked. Maybe its because I've never revealed my real name to anybody here (shades of Twilight), or maybe I'm a harsh/abrasive person and don't realize it. Don't know. Really don't care, because at this point, I just wanted to write because its one of the few things that brings me joy. Some people here drive that joy out of me, and it makes me regret putting my effort forth in trying to help with anything here. To include match writing, handler interviews, assisting fellow stablemates, ect. This is also the main reason why I kept my identity quiet for the three weeks I've been back. I kept my head down, minded my own business, wrote out my character stuff, assisted my stablemates (lot of good that'll do, now), and did little to try and take any spotlight for myself (which I have been accused of, and could be a fair assessment). Alas, I have no suggestions to offer to try and fix this. This is between admins/mods and Seth to work out, if it can ever be worked out.
These are my gripes. And now, I'm going to find a bottle of alcohol and try to find the death that should have found me in Afghanistan back in 2006. Excuse me.
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Post by Sarah Twilight on May 9, 2016 0:44:25 GMT -5
I do just want to point out what I did say in my original post about the issues.
This isn't a one size fits all thing and not every mod completely falls into that. Maybe they do, but I'm not going to just lump everyone into the same pot. But there is a level of favoritism that exists. I just find it a bit ironic that the fingers were pointed at Seth for that. Obviously the reason shit hit the fan is very legitimate concerning Logan. There is no question about that at all. The entire thing is sickening.
But any mod who accuses Seth of favoritism or protecting anyone needs to look in the mirror in this situation. What was it? "he who is without sin may cast the first stone."
Basically what it comes down to is, rather than pointing fingers, the issue at hand should be dealt with because fingers can be pointed right back in regards to favoritism. If anyone on the moderator team is unwilling to accept the facts presented in that regard, a) they have no leg to stand on with the accusations they have made to Seth and b) they shouldn't be a moderator to begin with. If you can't put aside personal shit, you don't need to be in charge of anything.
As far as the overall issue that even sparked this all to happen, I mean I think that should be pretty cut and dry. That type of shit is unacceptable. But that's just me.
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Post by Corey Black on May 9, 2016 0:49:26 GMT -5
Slickie T is a goddamn Godsend.
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Post by Corey Black on May 9, 2016 0:55:08 GMT -5
So, we know that Logan is a confirmed perv who sexually harasses people and that Rod plays two sides up the middle for shits and giggles watching the drama unfold. This is news to everybody, how? Dear god somebody finally spells it out.
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Post by Sarah Twilight on May 9, 2016 0:59:00 GMT -5
So, we know that Logan is a confirmed perv who sexually harasses people and that Rod plays two sides up the middle for shits and giggles watching the drama unfold. This is news to everybody, how? Dear god somebody finally spells it out. *wipes a tear from eye* Man, I remember when me saying what everyone already thought/knew would get me into trouble. Seriously though, I'm still trying to figure out how this is news to anyone lol
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Post by Corey Black on May 9, 2016 1:01:13 GMT -5
Oh we cleared that up?
PMs still got out. I'm glad they did but that's not a nice thing to do to your friend. Not that I really care.
As for Game, my message was going to be the same as I give to everyone. "Why you hiding?" Then, assuming I get a logical answer, I tell the mods and we let it go. Nothing malicious at all if you want to hide, tell us. That's it.
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Post by Joey Flash on May 9, 2016 1:05:12 GMT -5
I have simply been observing from afar the last few days and watched all of this unfold, but because of my membership status I will refrain from making any overly opinionated statements. All I know is that I feel very close to this place, enjoyed the hell out of the time I spent here and have the utmost respect for those who have kept it going strong for so many years. I tend to see things the way that Corey does and it appears to me that this may be a fracture that cannot be repaired unless there is some serious discussions between the active management. I hope that it all works out for everyone and I believe that it will persevere. Now that I have gotten that off my chest, I have but one question. Joey, are will still doing this thing or what? I was furious to see that XIII had been scrapped, because, frankly, I got inspired to sit down and bang out an RP in an attempt to entertain the masses at least one more time. That is what I am here for is to entertain and hopefully prove that I still have at least something left in the tank. I think I am going to post what I have regardless of the standing of this fed, because, well, I like what I have put together and I just hope that some of you will to. If this is indeed "the end", then I want to at least be part of it. Of course we're still doing it. Same deadline, one RP. Let's get it my man!
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Post by Sarah Twilight on May 9, 2016 1:06:28 GMT -5
Oh we cleared that up? PMs still got out. I'm glad they did but that's not a nice thing to do to your friend. Not that I really care. As for Game, my message was going to be the same as I give to everyone. "Why you hiding?" Then, assuming I get a logical answer, I tell the mods and we let it go. Nothing malicious at all if you want to hide, tell us. That's it. Is some of this directed at me? If so I'm not sure what you're exactly getting at. I MIGHT have a slight inkling but the vagueness of the post has me iffy. My being very blunt is exactly why some people in WCF have issue with me, so if this has to do with me, I'll gladly post here because I have not one issue saying something directly to someone that I have to say. I did so when it happened, and I will repeat now.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 1:07:58 GMT -5
Oh we cleared that up? PMs still got out. I'm glad they did but that's not a nice thing to do to your friend. Not that I really care. As for Game, my message was going to be the same as I give to everyone. "Why you hiding?" Then, assuming I get a logical answer, I tell the mods and we let it go. Nothing malicious at all if you want to hide, tell us. That's it. On that note, why didn't you just PM me and ask me? I got a PM from Gable about the bag o' dicks I posted up for Cathy Fitch, but not even a "Oh, BTW, we know who you are" or anything of the sort. Furthermore, I assumed you and anybody else who could read an IP address knew who I was. Wasn't trying to be deceptive in that aspect whatsoever. Also figured that if I did cause an issue then that would be a reason to get upset, but I did not. Just wanted to keep my head down and roleplay. But again, I ask why you didn't PM me about this rather than have to air it out here? Again with whatever issues you and the other admins who feel that this was a huge issue when I minded my business for the most part. Is it because its me?
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Post by Corey Black on May 9, 2016 1:10:08 GMT -5
I was waiting for Seth to see if he knew or not. Figured he did and just didn't tell us.
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Post by Corey Black on May 9, 2016 1:11:17 GMT -5
I've got a thing about this ever since Grime. Before that, really. Doesn't matter who it is.
Twilight, nothing to do with you.
CD loves everybody now.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 1:11:26 GMT -5
I was waiting for Seth to see if he knew or not. Figured he did and just didn't tell us. Again, still wondering why you didn't just PM me if it was such a big deal. Quit dodging the question. EDIT: Just read the response. I have one coming up soon...
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