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May 8, 2016 15:32:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 15:32:18 GMT -5
Again, it's not just about the Torture ban or any other one or two things. This whole thread is clearly about a lot of shit bubbling over that's been a problem to people for what seems like years. Can we just come out with whatever seems to be the main issues? Because this thread has so far covered so many different topics, yet a lot of people seem to be saying "that isnt the issue". So can we just say what the issue is lol I explained already why more people aren't getting involved in the topic. People have wanted to talk more about the main issues. And good job, Gravedigger, thanks for relaying offensive messages from a banned member. Rather or not you think Torture is right or wrong, it's not your call to post offensive comments from someone that Seth banned. You're welcome and I appreciate you telling me what I can and cannot post on the boards. I'm sure glad you and Rod are here, because I just wouldn't know how to post on the boards at all. It's so difficult!
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Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 15:33:14 GMT -5
Again, it's not just about the Torture ban or any other one or two things. This whole thread is clearly about a lot of shit bubbling over that's been a problem to people for what seems like years. The easiest way for them to spin this is to make it all about Torture's ban so they don't look bad. Then tell us what "they" have apparently done so that we can finally stop going round in circles. Because so far this thread has covered so many different topics, if anyone isnt confused at this point I'd be amazed.
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Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 15:38:19 GMT -5
You're welcome and I appreciate you telling me what I can and cannot post on the boards. I'm sure glad you and Rod are here, because I just wouldn't know how to post on the boards at all. It's so difficult! Okay this is getting annoying now. Let me give you an example, Digger. Lets pretend for a moment that you were still a mod. If someone was banned and I for whatever reason spoke to them and they wrote a message full of cursing and aggressiveness towards a member of the fed and posted what they said on the boards... would you NOT say that that was inappropriate? I KNOW you would. To me the only reason you appear to be okay with what Torture said and then posting what Torture said is because it was about Logan. It should not matter who it was about, if it is about a current (or former) member of our fed it should NOT be posted. And had I done this and you were still a mod I'm SURE you would have said and done far more than I have.
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Post by John Gable on May 8, 2016 15:40:37 GMT -5
You wanna know what this whole situation is really about? The fact that the MAJORITY of people feel their effort has been wasted and it being very apparent. And not only that but the fact that the obvious trolls are not the ones getting banned because Seth wants to be the troll king of trollfuck mountain because it seems to some degree he is done wanting to try and would rather give a big fuck you to the community. Torture being banned is upsetting because there have been a precedence set that we (mods and anyone else) have to scrap and fight for anyone else who says something WORSE than he has and has a blatant disregard for the fed but Torture says something against Seth and he gets banned? He constantly tells me to stop locking threads because he so much for freedom of speech and that someone could be a nazi and say what he wants but shouldn't get in trouble (a fucking example he has used before to the mods) but god forbid someone question his decision.
Honestly, there is blatant favoritism here with Logan. Fucking obvious to most of us. Which sucks because honestly Logan is the most damaging thing that comes through this fed as he does nothing but screw people over and plays the fucking victim card when called out on it. He is plain shit for the community as he hasn't done a god damn thing for this place yet continues to get shots as well as almost infinite second chances despite all the fucked up shit he has done. Anyone who thinks the dick pics are just a joke should ask Carly how she felt at the time when she got one. I remember Seth doing all he could so he wouldn't have to ban logan permanently. That is horse shit. He does absolutely nothing good for the community and the fact that he is still here shows no respect for the rest of us. He leeches off us!
And no I am not really interested in his apologist buddies. Say whatever the fuck is convenient for you this time to win this little fucking skirmish. Question what kind of hypocrite I am. Twist my words and try to bend my history for your own perspective. Attack me if need be, I am not going to be here to listen to it. As far as it goes, I have been done with this place for a while now and it is only now that I am leaving. Because despite this being the internet, we are people god damn it, and we should be given more respect than we currently are when we spend so much time putting in so much effort for a place and hobby we love, into characters that we dig out of ourselves. And I will not stand for my friends' effort being wasted because the fucking fed head wants a good laugh and push his fuck buddy over helping the peace of his community. This is a soul bearing place and it has been shat on by people who respect no one but themselves. And say what you will of me. I don't fucking need to defend myself at this point.
Don't worry, I realize all these naughty words will offend Logan, so I will ban myself. Fuck ya. Gable out.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 15:41:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 15:41:35 GMT -5
You're welcome and I appreciate you telling me what I can and cannot post on the boards. I'm sure glad you and Rod are here, because I just wouldn't know how to post on the boards at all. It's so difficult! Okay this is getting annoying now. Let me give you an example, Digger. Lets pretend for a moment that you were still a mod. If someone was banned and I for whatever reason spoke to them and they wrote a message full of cursing and aggressiveness towards a member of the fed and posted what they said on the boards... would you NOT say that that was inappropriate? I KNOW you would. To me the only reason you appear to be okay with what Torture said and then posting what Torture said is because it was about Logan. It should not matter who it was about, if it is about a current (or former) member of our fed it should NOT be posted. And had I done this and you were still a mod I'm SURE you would have said and done far more than I have. *Adds sarcasm to the list of words that escapes you*
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on May 8, 2016 15:42:06 GMT -5
I have to agree on a mod standpoint. What he said was inappropriate, I think the reason everyone was pissed off about Torture's ban was because it happened out of nowhere when the situation was resolved as Logan posted a PSA resolving his issue, and the thread was locked, and deleted, and from what the admins said, they didn't have a chance to discuss what should have happened.
P.S: Let me say this. I have no issues with anyone, I just gave my opinions in a respectful, and civilized manner. So don't think I came at Logan out of disrespect or a grudge.
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Post by Corey Black on May 8, 2016 15:42:20 GMT -5
I'm not going to say it again. The outcome isn't in question nor is it the point of this. As blunt as possible: the mods have begged and pleaded to ban for a whole lot more than Torture's forum gimmick of salty over everything. Yet whimmy wham wham wozzle, two complaints come in and RIP Torture for a week then two days. He did not deserve a ban then, he did earn his ban now - as provoked as it was. You know who should decide bans? Seth. Or me. Or Price. Or Odin. Or Gable. Or any other of the 106 mods. You normies have no business coming to anyone and saying "I'm butthurt, ban plz." You come to us and say "check this out" and we will go from there. If it's me, I'll tell you to man up or say I'll take it to the thread we have so we can discuss. Torture wasn't discussed. The circumstances involved are suspect at best, especially considering the complaints we have got about the folks in question to begin with. Basically, I think you're all making drama because you're bored and you need to entertain yourselves. Chill the fuck out and pull out the tampon. Price doesn't explain well. I explain well.
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Post by Logan on May 8, 2016 15:48:50 GMT -5
PLEASE LEAVE. JESUS CHRIST.
I EXPLAINED the dic pics in a thread you DELETED. That bullshit with Carly was over three years ago and she ASKED FOR IT. BTW. I GOT BANNED FOR THAT. I don't even know why I'm even explaining myself to you.
I'M SETHS FAVORITE? BS. THEN WHY DO I LOSE LIKE EVERY OTHER MATCH? SECOND CHANCES? WHAT SECOND CHANCES?
Here's the bottom line. Everyone is fuckin butt hurt or jealous because they're basically children. Please just go. If this place makes you butthurt THEN GO. LEAVE. TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT.
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Post by Corey Black on May 8, 2016 15:53:53 GMT -5
I cannot stress enough how this isn't about outcomes or matches. But I'll keep doing it until you guys get it, I suppose.
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Post by Logan on May 8, 2016 15:55:04 GMT -5
Some cry baby shit for real. I hope every single one of you toddlers that want to leave, actually do. Today. WCF is always better off without any drama.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 15:55:18 GMT -5
You're (Gable) claiming Seth is biased toward the wrestler you made pass out the other week. Seth didn't even have me eat the fucking pin. He straight out put Logan on the chopping block, at your hands.
I want to agree with the contributors who say it isn't about the outcomes, but judging from what I've seen, that's all that anyone who agrees with Torture has said aside from the dick pics. No disrespect but that's what's been said and no one can respond or counter anything that hasn't been said and they don't know about. So if it's not the outcomes, it's the dick pics.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 15:56:55 GMT -5
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Post by Kaz on May 8, 2016 15:56:55 GMT -5
I cannot stress enough how this isn't about outcomes or matches. But I'll keep doing it until you guys get it, I suppose.
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on May 8, 2016 15:57:36 GMT -5
How the hell did we go from Tort's ban to Dick Pics to Final Destination opinions to Drama then to DC/Marvel to results back to FD?
Honestly. I thought the issue was Tort being banned after EVERYTHING was resolved, and settled.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 15:59:51 GMT -5
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Post by Jayson Price on May 8, 2016 15:59:51 GMT -5
Gable's wish has been granted. He's hereby banned until October.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 16:01:45 GMT -5
Post by Corey Black on May 8, 2016 16:01:45 GMT -5
It pretty much comes down to the dick pics and Torture's ban, which was an apparent boo-hoo job by Logan and Rod - two very well known troublemakers. Straight up, no more clear than that. We're losing half the fed over it, I'm going to be the only mod left, and I seriously don't see how we recover. There's no rectifying it, it's already done.
My stance is to be as neutral as possible because that's what a good mod would do. I'm trying to explain why everyone is angry in ways everyone can catch on to. I'm not saying Price, Gable and GD are/were bad mods, but they're VERY VERY VERY pissed off. Tort asked for the second one, that's for sure, but the first ban was nonsensical and should have been discussed with the team. We have to beg and plead to do such things, but as soon as Logan is involved, it's an instant week.
Basically this is coming down to frustrations brewing with Seth and everyone else getting the brunt end of it.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 16:03:02 GMT -5
Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 16:03:02 GMT -5
How the hell did we go from Tort's ban to Dick Pics to Final Destination opinions to Drama then to DC/Marvel to results back to FD? Welcome to the WCF lmao
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May 8, 2016 16:06:17 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 16:06:17 GMT -5
So I'll probably get banned, too. Can those of you who have been banned tell me what you do during your ban until it is up? Also how does it feel and what happens? I just need to get myself prepared for this because it's not happened before and I just want to have a plan ready when the screen goes dark or I pass out. I'm not sure what happens.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 16:06:49 GMT -5
Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 16:06:49 GMT -5
I wish people would stop saying that I'm a troublemaker and therefore my opinion is worthless lol Ive been back for like 5 months now and havent caused any trouble at all (that Im aware of).
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on May 8, 2016 16:10:34 GMT -5
I don't even see why the problem with Logan, and results. Here's the thing. We're all asked to give an opinion about FD. Most of us thought SPENCE would win. Okay, that's it. We even said it in multiple podcasts. Fact is, Logan is champion, and it's bias? I have to disagree. There are a lot of times I thought many people would win over many people. Hell, I even thought Bernard would win over Mikey or Mikey wouldn't have lost to Gable or I wouldn't have won Tag or Gable would beat me. Results are results, and Seth is the best man for it compared to other shit judging systems in different efeds.
So, I think it's just other people getting angry for Logan at stuff whether petty or major because there's no need to BLAJSHFEWBUGUIAIUZABGRBTOBRUFU at him for results or results in period.
The issue most concerned as Corey Black stated would probably be the lack of say between Seth, and the moderating team which should be handled between them only. As for the roster leaving because of dick pics, and Torture. Simple. Bring torture back, and just don't look at the dick pics. (Unless you're me so I can blast them on Worldstar)
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May 8, 2016 16:14:48 GMT -5
Post by Earth-616 Holmes on May 8, 2016 16:14:48 GMT -5
And one more important thing.
Can the people in the main event PM what they want for their match?
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