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Torture
May 8, 2016 18:00:40 GMT -5
Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 18:00:40 GMT -5
You wanna know what this whole situation is really about? The fact that the MAJORITY of people feel their effort has been wasted and it being very apparent. And not only that but the fact that the obvious trolls are not the ones getting banned because Seth wants to be the troll king of trollfuck mountain because it seems to some degree he is done wanting to try and would rather give a big fuck you to the community. Torture being banned is upsetting because there have been a precedence set that we (mods and anyone else) have to scrap and fight for anyone else who says something WORSE than he has and has a blatant disregard for the fed but Torture says something against Seth and he gets banned? He constantly tells me to stop locking threads because he so much for freedom of speech and that someone could be a nazi and say what he wants but shouldn't get in trouble (a fucking example he has used before to the mods) but god forbid someone question his decision. Honestly, there is blatant favoritism here with Logan. Fucking obvious to most of us. Which sucks because honestly Logan is the most damaging thing that comes through this fed as he does nothing but screw people over and plays the fucking victim card when called out on it. He is plain shit for the community as he hasn't done a god damn thing for this place yet continues to get shots as well as almost infinite second chances despite all the fucked up shit he has done. Anyone who thinks the dick pics are just a joke should ask Carly how she felt at the time when she got one. I remember Seth doing all he could so he wouldn't have to ban logan permanently. That is horse shit. He does absolutely nothing good for the community and the fact that he is still here shows no respect for the rest of us. He leeches off us! And no I am not really interested in his apologist buddies. Say whatever the fuck is convenient for you this time to win this little fucking skirmish. Question what kind of hypocrite I am. Twist my words and try to bend my history for your own perspective. Attack me if need be, I am not going to be here to listen to it. As far as it goes, I have been done with this place for a while now and it is only now that I am leaving. Because despite this being the internet, we are people god damn it, and we should be given more respect than we currently are when we spend so much time putting in so much effort for a place and hobby we love, into characters that we dig out of ourselves. And I will not stand for my friends' effort being wasted because the fucking fed head wants a good laugh and push his fuck buddy over helping the peace of his community. This is a soul bearing place and it has been shat on by people who respect no one but themselves. And say what you will of me. I don't fucking need to defend myself at this point. Don't worry, I realize all these naughty words will offend Logan, so I will ban myself. Fuck ya. Gable out. If you think I don't care or whatever, you're ignorant. If you think the handful of posts I made this week that were largely in character (besides fuckin' anti-OReilly BK) indicate any real feelings... blegh. Trust me, if I had any idea anyone had any real gripes or felt so strongly, I wouldn't have tried to have fun.
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Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 18:17:16 GMT -5
Okay! From the top.
Did Logan deserve his first ban? No.
Then why did I do it?
Torture and I are friends. I talk to him more than I talk to Logan, probably more than I talk to anyone. The idea of Logan versus Torture II at Ultimate Showdown 2016, ten year anniversary, has been going on forever. At the time of the banning, and I'm giving away stuff but too late now I guess, I figured "okay Holmes will beat Logan for the belt at ADM most likely and then we'll have Logan/Tort at Showdown, haha me banning Tort on Logan's behalf will be funny!" No one had bitched to me about anything he said, it was my choice alone. Would I do that to anyone else but Torture? No. Did I think I'd have to answer to anyone but Torture? Nope.
We talked a few times since then, he never once expressed any real anger or unhappiness. If he said "what the fuck Seth!? unban me i didnt do shit! i want to post!" id have lifted it early for him. But he didnt. Like I said earlier, we talked about Civil War, he made me a cool graphic. Didn't think there was any animosity. Jayson Price did not ask me why he was banned. No admin whatsoever contacted me about the ban whatsoever to ask why it happened.
If someone had a problem, I'd have expected to be contacted so I could explain.
Yes, the ban blurred lines between what I was doing IC and me being OOC owner, I see that now. At the time, I didn't really believe it would be a huge deal, because it isn't like Torture is a big part of the community - he doesn't post a lot, and when he does, it's just grumpy stuff half the time about how we're all dumb for our wrestling opinions.
Last night's ban was legitimate. Note, however, that it was only a TWO DAY ban, which I think is appropriate when cutting someone off who was posting how he was.
To my discredit, if Tort was someone other than Tort, like a newcomer, I'd possibly have banned them longer. I feel like I actually showed Tort favoritism here more than anything, but hey, no one is accusing me of that so maybe I should keep my mouth shut.
The fact that the dick pics are still brought up is crazy to me. It was handled between the individuals involved.
I've been accused of "protecting" people a few times, but here's the truth - I will try to "protect" ANYONE I consider a member of this community. Often times against my better judgment. I don't know what he thinks of me now, but an example: for a long time, I had to watch Waylon post shit on Facebook that I thought was inappropriate and that, as per our rules, I could've banned him for. But I didn't want to. I've had people wanting Flash to be brought in for his constant negative podcast stuff. I've given Sarah Twilight and Katherine Phoenix multiple chances. I protect Logan the same way I'd protect anyone - I want as many people here as possible and I want them to be able to work with each other.
Bobby Cairo has said unkind things about me, I welcomed him back with open arms and I miss him now. ICE Beckman said negative things, I miss him too and would welcome him back.
I'll unlock the thread now and I'll gladly answer any questions or misgivings people have. Again, my mistake for getting too into in character angles and leading it to me making an OOC decision, but I'd have gladly explained or undone it if anyone had asked.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 18:18:51 GMT -5
Post by Odin Balfore on May 8, 2016 18:18:51 GMT -5
WHY DONT YOU GIVE ME THE BOOK!!??
LOLZ
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Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 18:21:31 GMT -5
One more thing:
In character, uh, Seth is still an obnoxious Logan fan and Family member, and I'm not going to tone that down for results because of OOC drama. So my apologies if anyone is going to get grumpy about it. I'd already written up a segment where he pins the entire fed in a huge gauntlet match with me as the special referee and I'm not throwing it out now.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 18:22:20 GMT -5
Post by Earth-616 Holmes on May 8, 2016 18:22:20 GMT -5
One more thing: In character, uh, Seth is still an obnoxious Logan fan and Family member, and I'm not going to tone that down for results because of OOC drama. So my apologies if anyone is going to get grumpy about it. I'd already written up a segment where he pins the entire fed in a huge gauntlet match with me as the special referee and I'm not throwing it out now. As long as it doesn't involve Andre Holmes in it, I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Torture
May 8, 2016 18:31:26 GMT -5
Post by Joey Flash on May 8, 2016 18:31:26 GMT -5
I feel the clarity of the issues people have haven't been properly addressed.
Literally half the fed is ready to just disappear here. Don't lock the thread I create, let's sort this shit. I don't want us to lose what we've built.
Work with me Seth <3
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Torture
May 8, 2016 18:32:09 GMT -5
Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 18:32:09 GMT -5
I feel the clarity of the issues people have haven't been properly addressed. Literally half the fed is ready to just disappear here. Don't lock the thread I create, let's sort this shit. I don't want us to lose what we've built. Work with me Seth <3 Yes, I'll answer anything that needs answering, as I'm clearly missing something as I feel I answered everything!
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Post by Gemini Battle on May 8, 2016 21:08:49 GMT -5
I have no idea what's happening. This whole thing isvery confusing. Who wants to quit why? It doesn't make sense. For the record I don't talk to anyone OOC other than Caleb who probably only talks to me OOC and it's mostly about our families and music and wwe
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Torture
May 8, 2016 22:14:08 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by The Killenial (Caleb Ronan) on May 8, 2016 22:14:08 GMT -5
I have no idea what's happening. This whole thing isvery confusing. Who wants to quit why? It doesn't make sense. For the record I don't talk to anyone OOC other than Caleb who probably only talks to me OOC and it's mostly about our families and music and wwe And ass fucking Grayson's mom.
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Post by Seth on May 9, 2016 1:00:42 GMT -5
I feel the clarity of the issues people have haven't been properly addressed. Literally half the fed is ready to just disappear here. Don't lock the thread I create, let's sort this shit. I don't want us to lose what we've built. Work with me Seth <3 FUCK YOU THAT WORKED OUT REAL FUCKING WELL DIDNT IT
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