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Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 23:26:51 GMT -5
"Plays two sides" actually Twilight, I was and still am telling Logan that it is wrong. How is that playing two sides? Why didn't you tell us yourself? Why did we have to find out through Andre? This is only going to make you look bad because you knew. Because Logan only just sent me that message and I was/still am talking to Carly on Facebook and showed her? And by the time I came back on here she had showed someone else
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Post by Wade Moor on May 8, 2016 23:27:14 GMT -5
Well, we all just got played and hammered into shit. Something needs to be done IMO. I've been trying to keep my mouth shut and diffuse the tension all day, but this is morally compromising to me. I'm not cool with what just happened in the slightest.
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Post by Ana Valentine on May 8, 2016 23:28:50 GMT -5
Why didn't you tell us yourself? Why did we have to find out through Andre? This is only going to make you look bad because you knew. Because Logan only just sent me that message and I was/still am talking to Carly on Facebook and showed her? And by the time I came back on here she had showed someone else I shared this not Rod. I shared it because Jay and GD were attacked when defending me and they had a right to see this... When it all happened Jay was the one who fought my corner and didn't let it just go away! Rod did none of this, I DID So back off cause for once, the guy actually did something for me
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Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 23:33:09 GMT -5
Please do not do the "as someone who..." thing. You're not the only one and that isn't a fair thing to do. Okay, I'll pretend I didn't see this. Why? Are you going to make claims about things you've been through and discount someone else? Unfortunately I'm using my real name here.
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Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 23:33:16 GMT -5
I will happily accept your apology, Twilight. Thanks
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Post by 6ix God on May 8, 2016 23:33:25 GMT -5
I've tried staying out of this as much as possible. In fact, frankly, I've been incredibly busy with graduation and my parents being in town so I'm still very much out of the loop on a lot that has happened.
In regards to the drama, I will only say this: I was told by someone that Seth wanted to hold off on me facing Logan or winning the title and I should expect a PM about dusty finishes or other people having shots before me. I understand that the Trilogy Cup was sort of a train wreck, but I wrote every PPV to win. I do not feel like a valued member of the community when I've earned something only to be told I'm going to be pressured to not take it.
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Post by Earth-616 Holmes on May 8, 2016 23:33:45 GMT -5
Hey Logan! Since you had so much to say, we wanna hear your voice on this. You're only here to roleplay. Right? Please explain this bullshit. We really wanna know!
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Post by Sarah Twilight on May 8, 2016 23:34:52 GMT -5
The entire thing is not cool and I remember when it happened and how upset Carly was. Good on ya then Rod for doing the right thing. *backs off*
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Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 23:35:52 GMT -5
I'm really torn. The emotional side of me, and no one is going to fucking believe me, is like.. FUCK LOGAN, he just made an idiot out of me, ban him and strip him of the belt. But he didn't say anything I didn't already know. We all knew Carly was telling the truth, it was never in question. We all knew the truth about Rod's girlfriend too - I WAS IN THE FACEBOOK CHAT WHERE IT HAPPENED! It wasn't new revelations to me. But whatever, Logan was trying to deceive us and it's fucked. Might as well live up to my newfound reputation and ban someone because this really is fucked. Actually people questioned if I was lying... The only reason I got involved as this was handled poorly the first time round and I didn't want a repeat... I quit this place because of that dick pic and what happened... So for me, I feel vindicated and I'll be happy to show you plenty from him you haven't seen... Privately because I won't sink to his level Why would I want that? No matter what comes out now I look like an asshole for protecting someone who did or said things which, by your own admittance, I'd have no idea about. And if anyone was going to question you when even I didn't, the biggest Logan fan in the world, I don't know what to tell them.
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Post by "The Black Dragon" Alex Jones on May 8, 2016 23:36:28 GMT -5
The entire thing is not cool and I remember when it happened and how upset Carly was. Good on ya then Rod for doing the right thing. *backs off* just to reinterate this man and myself and Carly have no issues he stood up and apologised and earned respect
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Post by SickWaves Blackamura on May 8, 2016 23:36:32 GMT -5
Okay, I'll pretend I didn't see this. Why? Are you going to make claims about things you've been through and discount someone else? Unfortunately I'm using my real name here. Alright, what are you trying to say right now? I was trying to express a bit of empathy and let it be known that I take this sort of thing to heart based on moral compass. I'm not discounting anyone. I wanted Carly to see too if that's what you meant. Plenty of people have been through shit and I'm not going to discount any of them.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 23:36:46 GMT -5
I made a joke about that ban, but I honestly didn't think he really got banned that time. FWIW you weren't the only one. Not for one minute did I think Tort had actually been banned. The way Seth wrote it and followed it up with such a blatantly biased post made me think there was no way he was seriously, and apparently we were the only ones to think that way but it turns out it wasn't. Thirded...
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Post by "Iron Heart" Ethan King on May 8, 2016 23:37:48 GMT -5
Whatever "felt" Wot kind of name is that anyways lmfao, at least my names are fuckin unique (shoutout yo zione redington, the real OG) Only thing you've "felt" is them young lads you be tryna touch up... cmon dude you just became an adult wtf dude the only thing that's more laughable than the fuckin names you come up with is your shitty wolverine wannabe facial hair like dude I kno ur tribe don't own razors but come on that's just unsightly. ps i don't touch up no lads unless they legal bro u must got me confused with ur uncle lmao and here I was thinking the guy with the pedophile stache would be a guy that would own up to how often he touched little kids LOL Stick to the wine glass tbh
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Post by Crystal Knight on May 8, 2016 23:37:50 GMT -5
The entire thing is not cool and I remember when it happened and how upset Carly was. Good on ya then Rod for doing the right thing. *backs off* Apology accepted
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Post by Ana Valentine on May 8, 2016 23:38:21 GMT -5
Actually people questioned if I was lying... The only reason I got involved as this was handled poorly the first time round and I didn't want a repeat... I quit this place because of that dick pic and what happened... So for me, I feel vindicated and I'll be happy to show you plenty from him you haven't seen... Privately because I won't sink to his level Why would I want that? No matter what comes out now I look like an asshole for protecting someone who did or said things which, by your own admittance, I'd have no idea about. And if anyone was going to question you when even I didn't, the biggest Logan fan in the world, I don't know what to tell them. I never shared how bad he got after I tried to laugh it off because I am not the big bad bitch out to ruin him... But he led people here to believe that. Did I feel like your protected hi ? Yeah. I did, but I got over it... I left wcf I went to a new fed met my husband, got in half of fame and then went on to open Valentine Wrestling.... So the past is past. I just wanted proof I never asked to see the unimpressive skin flute of a pefvert alcoholic. None of us are 100% innocent, go back 5 years and I was the one sending... But that was when asked... And it was a penis... Cause I don't have one. Til:dr I still consider you a friend. Logan can choke on his bullshit.
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Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 23:41:58 GMT -5
I've tried staying out of this as much as possible. In fact, frankly, I've been incredibly busy with graduation and my parents being in town so I'm still very much out of the loop on a lot that has happened. In regards to the drama, I will only say this: I was told by someone that Seth wanted to hold off on me facing Logan or winning the title and I should expect a PM about dusty finishes or other people having shots before me. I understand that the Trilogy Cup was sort of a train wreck, but I wrote every PPV to win. I do not feel like a valued member of the community when I've earned something only to be told I'm going to be pressured to not take it. ... I wanted to do Logan versus Torture at Ultimate Showdown. He told me the only time he could do it was Asesinato De Mayo. I wanted it Logan vs Tort at Showdown non-Title, he could not do that. I'd been banking on Torture vs Logan for about a year now, so I decided to bump that up about a month - since Torture could not wait - and to give you your World Title shot the month thereafter. I mentioned a dusty finish briefly - something I'd have asked you about, not demanded - but Tort needed his match at ADM, no later, so I never brought it up because it wasn't going to happen and the idea was dead before it went anywhere. In my mind, you were 100% the most likely person to end up taking the belt from Logan. Unfortunately you spoke to someone else instead of me and apparently got a different idea. To be fair, it was equally as possible that Torture would beat Logan for the belt and then Tort would lose to you instead of Logan. That could have happened too. Either way I fully expected you to be the next World Champion, or at least second-to-next but whatever, you made assumptions without any conversation with me at all.
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Post by "The Black Dragon" Alex Jones on May 8, 2016 23:43:00 GMT -5
Why would I want that? No matter what comes out now I look like an asshole for protecting someone who did or said things which, by your own admittance, I'd have no idea about. And if anyone was going to question you when even I didn't, the biggest Logan fan in the world, I don't know what to tell them. I never shared how bad he got after I tried to laugh it off because I am not the big bad bitch out to ruin him... But he led people here to believe that. Did I feel like your protected hi ? Yeah. I did, but I got over it... I left wcf I went to a new fed met my husband, got in half of fame and then went on to open Valentine Wrestling.... So the past is past. I just wanted proof I never asked to see the unimpressive skin flute of a pefvert alcoholic. None of us are 100% innocent, go back 5 years and I was the one sending... But that was when asked... And it was a penis... Cause I don't have one. Til:dr I still consider you a friend. Logan can choke on his bullshit. wait you have a penis? Cause I think I would have found that by now since I went looking....hehe typos
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 23:43:17 GMT -5
I would just like to find what your definition of "troublemakers" is when you choose to include me with that? Because, and please correct me if I am wrong here but the only reason people are salty with me is because I chose to not divulge my personal information with people on the internet. Rod did literally the exact same thing and no pitchforks were pulled out for that. And if you wanna talk about my negative posts? We can do that too. With the exception of AJ on a misunderstanding on both of our parts the only people I have ever posted shit to on the forum were ... troublemakers. I was the first person to say what EVERYONE was thinking when Lilith first showed up, same with raYne and a few others. The theme here? Everyone in WCF was aggravated to shit by these people and I was the one to say something because nobody else would. Am I sorry for going off on people like that? No. So we come back to the "supposed" reason why people label me a "troublemaker" and don't want me here ... again, Rod did the exact same thing to a very different response. People wanted a reason for me to be gone LONG before any of that stuff came about and it had nothing to do with me being a "troublemaker" because if we're honest, in the 2 years before the OOC stuff about me, I busted my ass for WCF every single week. I contributed to this fed tenfold and because I with held my identity the witch hunt starts? Ad for Rod "lol" come on now, am I truly supposed to believe that? I already know why there is an issue with me, and I always have known. I don't cower in a corner and let mods bully me and openly disagree when one of you is being an asshole. It's also the fact that a nice little circle of people despised the fact that I, and Eric Price did so well for as long as we did and that the show wasn't centered around people in that circle. Like I said, I have known for a long time about favoritism here. People can mask it whatever way they want, they can talk shit behind my back to everyone in the fed to where people who weren't even here when I was here think they have the right to have an opinion on something they know nothing about because they are fed a one sided pile of horseshit based on people who didn't like me or the fact that I did well here LONG before they ever had their magical "reason" to have me gone. The issues that are being presented today are nothing new. They were around when I started and there is no difference today. The only reason this is exploding now is because people have been pretending to play the "nice" card while still stirring up the same drama they always have behind closed doors. You stirred shit up just as much as anyone. You created a little clique in order to talk shit about people in the chat and made it clear how superior you were to people. You know why I stopped talking to you and Price and what not? Because of this. That is how I see you as a troublemaker. Oh and besides the fact that you can't gloss over that you fucking lied to everyone for a long time and took liberties with other people's characters you would have been pissed about people taking with your character. Stop getting so fucking pissy with people when we are trying to solve an issue god damnit. He fucking said that the post was fair and he didn't respond the way he should of. God damn it. But this does seem to be a legitimate issue. I think so, anyways...
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Post by SickWaves Blackamura on May 8, 2016 23:46:03 GMT -5
Alright, what are you trying to say right now? I was trying to express a bit of empathy and let it be known that I take this sort of thing to heart based on moral compass. I'm not discounting anyone. I wanted Carly to see too if that's what you meant. Plenty of people have been through shit and I'm not going to discount any of them. It seemed like you were saying "I was a victim of something and as such I understand more than someone who wasn't" as if I've never been through anything. I don't feel like going into more details with my real name. Not at all, was just trying to show everyone in an honest way that didn't read as "look how much I'm trying to add to the drama".
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Post by Seth on May 8, 2016 23:57:02 GMT -5
Okay!
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