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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 20:34:03 GMT -5
The Official requirements for both the WCF Triple Crown and WCF Grand Slam:
WCF Triple Crown WCF World Title (Major Title) WCF Tag Team Titles WCF US Title/Hardcore Title/WCF Television Title (Secondary Title)
WCF Grand Slam WCF World Title (Major Title) WCF Tag Titles WCF US Title/WCF Hardcore Title/WCF Television Title (Secondary Title) WCF Internet Title/WCF People's Title (Tertiary Title)
WCF TRIPLE CROWN WINNERS Logan Gravedigger Corey Black PC Cradle Madd Dogg JJ Biggs Torture Jack Of Blades Dake Ken Skyler Striker Slickie T Greenfever Oblivion Brad Kane D-Day Jay Price FPV Jeff Purse Odin Balfore Eric Price Waylon Cash Jonny Fly Sarah Twilight Steve Orbit Bobby Cairo Nathan von Liebert Jay Omega Joey Flash
WCF GRAND SLAM WINNERS Torture (World, Hardcore, Tag Team, People's) Jay Price (World, Hardcore, United States, Television, Tag Team, People's, Internet, Elite) FPV (World, United States, Television, Tag Team, People's) Odin Balfore (World, Hardcore, United States, Tag Team, Internet) Corey Black (World, Television, Hardcore, Tag Team, Internet) Eric Price (World, United States, Television, Tag Team, Internet, Elite)
Those Close To Joining Triple Crown Club (Only Those Still With WCF) Need World Title: Doc Henry, Roy Speede, Synn, Benjamin Atreyu, John Gable, Remus Micayle, Zombie McMorris, Howard Black, Kaz Mazy, Gemini Battle / Grayson Pierce Need Tag Team Title: Natural ICE Beckman Needs Secondary Title: Johnny Reb
Those Close To Joining Grand Slam Club (Only Those Still With WCF) Need Tertiary Title (Internet or Peoples): Logan, Gravedigger, Oblivion, Brad Kane, Waylon Cash, Jonny Fly, Sarah Twilight, Jeff Purse, Bobby Cairo, Steve Orbit, Nathan von Liebert, Jay Omega, Joey Flash Need World Title: Zombie McMorris, Doc Henry Needs Secondary Title: Johnny Reb
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Post by CD's Old Account on Dec 28, 2012 20:49:30 GMT -5
Wrong, wrong, so wrong. Look, I don't care if I'm Grand Slam anything, but if we're going to do junk like this, we're going to do it right.
01/19/02: Creeping Death pins Logan, Creeping Death/Rick Mad become first Tag Team Champions. The other teams were Logan/Cyrus, Hellz Angel/Mad Dog, G Funk Kid/Outcast.
06/29/03: Creeping Death beats Steele in an Ultraviolent Ladder Match to win the TV Title.
07/27/03: Creeping Death defeats Hellz Angel to win the World Title; Creeping Death is also Television Champion, the Titles are unified.
06/18/06: Creeping Death attacks Ellis and Josephine Miyazaki in a Tag Team Title match, severely injuring them and stealing the Hardcore Title, making himself Champion.
As far as I'm concerned, I was Grand Slam Champion in 2006. Well before the Internet Title was even created. Just barely after the People's Title was made. If we're counting these little "Tertiary Titles" then we're counting them all. Cruiserweight, Elite, International, MCE, Texas, Confederate, DOT Tag, The Jobber Crown, we're counting it ALL. The breakdown SHOULD BE as follows.
World
Tag
TV, US
Hardcore, People's, Internet, Elite, International, etc etc etc.
WCF's entire history has to be encompassed in this thing or it's a fruitless and useless effort by Mr. Price here. There isn't three secondary titles still active. You have two at best. TV and US, obviously. Hardcore, no matter what, has always been of the lower belts because it's a specialty division, like International or Cruiserweight.
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Post by Terry Roberts on Dec 28, 2012 20:52:24 GMT -5
Okay, wait. Are you REALLY including the DOT tag titles?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 21:02:19 GMT -5
You know what, how about I just make Seth Lerch, Creeping Death and Gravedigger their own group since they've been around since the days of WCF v.1? Maybe call it the "Are You Fucking Kidding Me? It's Been Over A Decade?" Club?
I'm sorry if you feel left out Creeps, I'm just using what Seth gave me as the official ranking of the belts. It's not like I set out to do this thinking "Hehe, I need to make sure Creeps is left out" while twirling my handlebar mustache.
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Post by CD's Old Account on Dec 28, 2012 21:19:20 GMT -5
I don't feel left out at all though. I'm just trying to make this more legit than it actually is. It's impossible to count belts that are barely established.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 21:22:50 GMT -5
I don't feel left out at all though. I'm just trying to make this more legit than it actually is. It's impossible to count belts that are barely established. This is turning into another headache just like the Rankings.
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Post by Terry Roberts on Dec 29, 2012 0:15:37 GMT -5
I don't feel left out at all though. I'm just trying to make this more legit than it actually is. It's impossible to count belts that are barely established. This is turning into another headache just like the Rankings. Amen. You tried to warn me, should have listened.
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Post by Odin Balfore on Dec 29, 2012 11:03:51 GMT -5
So then clear the air. Seth said it.
World title
secondary - TV, US
Tri- Hardcore, peoples, internet
Tag
I think it gets confusing of being grand slam champion if you only get one of each belt from the second and third tier. So there should be a new classification made if you get every belt ( which i thought was GRAND SLAM )
As for belts that no longer exsist, they shouldnt count in the current incarnation just because they don't exsist.
International, Elite, Cruiser, They should still count towards the triple crown distinction but you cant discredit others from such major distinction because Seth chose to scrap them.
Big Shows considered a grandslam champion and HBK is and HBK never won the recognized ECW championship
Neither man won the cruiserweight and HBK never won the hardcore.
so yah.. If price or Seth just said here is the criteria, deal with it.
No one can bitch.
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Post by CD's Old Account on Dec 29, 2012 11:08:52 GMT -5
Grand Slam is 4 belts. Named after baseball.
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Post by Odin Balfore on Dec 29, 2012 11:13:37 GMT -5
Then we need a name if sumone wins all the belts available to them lol
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Post by Torture on Dec 29, 2012 13:49:33 GMT -5
We call that "Torture".
ZING!@~!#
I'm just messin'.. you guys can continue..
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Post by Odin Balfore on Dec 29, 2012 13:56:04 GMT -5
We call that "Torture". ZING!@~!# I'm just messin'.. you guys can continue.. that actually made me laugh a bit. well played good sir.
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Post by Torture on Dec 29, 2012 14:48:07 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 16:03:36 GMT -5
Then we need a name if sumone wins all the belts available to them lol Well after I become the first one to do it, I'll be sure to give it a kickass name. That's right, I said it. I will be the first one to do it. All I need is the US Title and the Internet Title. The next closest people to being able to do it are Torture and FPV and they need 3 belts. Bar some unfortunate event (ie. Seth losing his mind and bringing back yet another belt), I'll have the distinction wrapped up before spring is over.
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Post by Odin Balfore on Dec 29, 2012 16:09:18 GMT -5
Don't worry Jay, I'll make sure what ever name its given will invlove JOBBER KILL
cuz thats sumthing you can never do.. yet sumhow accomplish... JOB
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Post by Jeff Purse on Dec 30, 2012 10:48:49 GMT -5
Then we need a name if sumone wins all the belts available to them lol Well after I become the first one to do it, I'll be sure to give it a kickass name. That's right, I said it. I will be the first one to do it. All I need is the US Title and the Internet Title. The next closest people to being able to do it are Torture and FPV and they need 3 belts. Bar some unfortunate event (ie. Seth losing his mind and bringing back yet another belt), I'll have the distinction wrapped up before spring is over. Just wanted to throw in I also only need three belts to do this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 11:01:12 GMT -5
Waylon Cash and Eric Price can both become Triple Crown winners at "One".
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Post by Skyler Striker on Dec 30, 2012 20:40:33 GMT -5
I think I was left off these lists Mr. Price - by the official requirements posted above I'm already a Triple Crown winner and only need a tertiary belt to become a Grand Slam winner.
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Post by Torture on Dec 30, 2012 20:42:57 GMT -5
I agree. I thought it was weird you weren't on the lists. You won all the titles during the era we wrestled in together.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 21:58:56 GMT -5
I think I was left off these lists Mr. Price - by the official requirements posted above I'm already a Triple Crown winner and only need a tertiary belt to become a Grand Slam winner. :facepalm:
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